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  • in reply to: What's ATR doing? #558729
    LeftcoastCanada
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    Its just the timing – the orders will generally come with a deposit but that is not recognisable as revenue in standard accounting practice. The revenue comes when you deliver the plane (or the customer cancels and bails on his deposit). There may be some accounting rules that allow partial revenue recognition as the plane is being built but I’m not sure about that. So while ATR took deposits on 90 planes it’ll only show on their balance sheet as an increase in cash and increase in deferred revenue.

    Also remember that the turnover from the orders may be spread out over multiple years if the customers order for delivery in say 2006, 2007, 2008 so while one might expect revenue in the current fiscal year to increase it may not jump all the way up in the same magnitudeas it’ll be spread over the time.

    in reply to: Air Canada #558730
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    That’ll be an Embraer 190 – you lucky person 🙂 I hope to get on one of those this year but they’re not going to operate out of YVR for a while so I’m going to have to work at it.

    in reply to: 737 v A320 #570622
    LeftcoastCanada
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    Remember the old saw:

    Q. How do you make a small fortune in the airline business?”

    A. “start with a large one!”

    Still true – not all LCCs survive and thrive like Ryanair, Easyjet and its going to get harder as the market moves towards saturation point. Be the first to do what Ryanair would like to do – fly for free and make your money on the add-ons like gambling etc.

    Doesn’t sound like your in the av business at all and if you’re posting on this here doesn’t sound like you’ve got the deep pockets personally or the backing of deep pockets. If you have, that’s a start but then you need management expertise.

    Lastly, and to answer your original question. IMHO, passengers generally don’t care what they fly on as long as it is cheap (LCC passengers especially) or meets their needs for convenience and value. There was an article in the Globe and Mail (arguably Canada’s national newspaper) written by a journalist about the socio-economic impact on Europe of the LCCs and how they’re changing the face of the world. Actually a good article, but even this guy thought he was flying on a Ryanair Airbus! and he has fact checkers to research his story.

    in reply to: Future of the big airlines #596970
    LeftcoastCanada
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    ..And the two divisions would be called… BEA and BOAC 🙂

    Seriously I don’t see that scenario happening. Remember that the short haul and European routes also act as feeders to/from the LHR hub. BA derives a lot of long haul traffic from people travelling from A to B via LHR but not actually stopping in London.

    in reply to: Qantas orders 115 787's #604949
    LeftcoastCanada
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    Great win for Boeing.

    Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between an “Option” and a “Purchase Right”.

    At times these terms seem to be used interchangeably but they do appear to have different meanings.

    in reply to: Predominant global airline: 2020 #605971
    LeftcoastCanada
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    Not sure I agree with that prediction. Yes, there will be consolidation but the word ‘global’ leaves much to be desired. Regulation and national self-interest will preserve most of the world’s major carriers today as until all airlines are offered complete nth freedom rights they are all essentially nationally based airlines. I think there will be more consolidation within the EU and that BA will finally find someone to merge with.

    On the US front CO is nowhere near going Ch11, but their CEO has publicly speculated about a merger with United. I do think that the major US airlines will consolidate more with NW and Delta possibly being taken out by AA/U/CO in some combination. I’d like to see a BA/AA merger come to fruition, that would truly be closer to a ‘global’ airline.

    The other way to look at this question is – we’re already there and the number is 3. The major airline alliances Oneworld, Star and Skyteam provide the umbrella organizations to create global single branding, common service levels, local and longhaul seamless travel and group buying power. I think we’ll see more national airlines seeking to join these and perhaps the formation of another new alliance formed by those who cannot get into the Big 3. The LCCs can then live on the outside of the giants.

    Myself, I’m waiting for AC to be able to buy one of the US airlines so we have a truly North American entity 😉

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