Explanation about the delays in todays Telegraph (Rolls struggling to get software supplier to deliver) and speculation that the Airtanker order may be bought forward to provide missing capability
Seems a strange response, I would have thought that a couple more C-17’s would have been the answer :confused: The waiting list for those isn’t exactly long is it ?
If anything they should be upgrading it to AMRAAM for the MRA4 (maybe its part of the plan) Don’t forget a good bit of the role of the MRA4 is now ELINT . If they were a few miles offshore and the country been snooped on had to launch against it the pilots in the fighters would have to respect the fact that it was fitted with a decent BVR missile and a very good DAS system
Back to Jayhawks original question, why is it that so many countries are persisting in warming over old Helicopter designs and indeed airframes to make them last another 20-30years rather than buy new ? By some of the numbers that have been quoted on these projects they are not cheap and in some cases such as the FLYNX are nearly as much as they would be if built from scratch. Examples that spring to mind;
FLYNX
Big Puma upgrades to HC 2 spec
Loads of expensive UH-1 upgrades, although the USMC did balk at the UH-1Y refit and then just asked them to build new versions of a very old design.
Modernisation of all RAF Chinooks to HC4 spec so they last to 2040
Sea King HC4 upgrade (admittedly an urgent Operational requirement)
AH-1Z Cobra
No doubt there are many more.
Contrast this to the civilian market where there do seem to be quite a few new modern designs coming to market. Is there an inate conservatism in the worlds military that makes them risk averse, or is it just down to money ?
Did I hear something today about there being an urgent meeting of all the countries that surround Somalia to discuss this ? Will they do anything or just pass it to the big navy’s ?
Story on the BBC
India ‘sinks Somali pirate ship’
The Indian navy has said that one of its warships in the Gulf of Aden has destroyed a ship belonging to pirates operating off the coast of Somalia.
The INS Tabar opened fire on a pirate “mother ship” after it came under attack, a government statement said.
There has been a recent surge in piracy off the coast of Somalia.
The Saudi-owned Sirius Star supertanker is currently anchored off the Somali coast after it and its 25 crew were seized by pirates.
Somalia has not had a functioning national government since 1991 and has suffered continuing civil strife.
Warships from several countries are already patrolling the Gulf of Aden, one of the world’s busiest shipping lanes which connects the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
Piracy off the coast of Somalia is estimated to have cost up to $30m (£17m) in ransoms so far this year, according to a recent report by a UK think-tank.
Good to see the pic of Snoopy ground testing the engine. Have they explained the actual reason for the delay with the engines ?
Cambridge is only up the road so I am hoping to see her visiting all the local airfields doing circuits etc with any luck 😎
Its definately cash, a ‘security consultant’ whom has done this for a shipowner was talking about it on the radio yesterday.
Interestingly a shipping law expert just said on the BBC that there is a UN security council resolution that allows for the interception of the motherships but probably not the smaller boats that they send of to do the business. That is unless the small boats fire on a Naval vessel first in which case they are toast, which kinda backs up what the RN did the other day.
Those that were captured by the RN have been transported to Kenya for trial, where the Kenyan authorities are apparently very pleased to be dealing with them.
The pirates have really gone for it this time. A mere 320,000 tonner, no doubt the most valuable prize ever siezed by a Pirate at say $150 million including the vessel ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7733482.stm
Lets just hope they don’t try to take it into a harbour that is too shallow or we could have an environmental disaster. I can’t see the larger and more economically powerful nations letting this sort of thing continue for much longer before one of them really starts to play hard ball.
Film of HMS Dragon launch today. Usual slight foul up with the bottle breaking ceremony as well as it didn’t look like she was going to move 😀
Both the RN and USN have had SSN related fatalities and serious / very serious incidents in recent years. It goes with the territory, and means that high standards have to be maintained by all.
It always was a very good looking plane.:cool:
Who needs contractors ? At last a little good news to redeem the sullied reputation of the Royal Navy. Pirates killed in firefight ………
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5141745.ece
An excellent picture as well
Although reported elsewhere, maybe not everyone here has seen that it all came a whole lot closer yesterday :diablo::eek:
EU governments agreed Monday to establish a joint military air squadron to improve their transport capabilities to far-flung operations such as Afghanistan, Africa or the Middle East.
The 27-nation bloc has had a long-standing shortfall in available military transport planes, and EU defense ministers meeting in Brussels hope to reduce this by pooling C-130s, the new Airbus A400 heavy lifter and other types of cargo aircraft.
Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia and Spain have signed on to the initiative, which will be implemented by the European Defense Agency, the ministers said in a statement.
“Pooling European aircraft and services will improve the lift capabilities and alleviate a significant European shortfall,” agency director Alexander Weis said.
The agency has not yet determined how many aircraft would participate in the joint squadron. But defense agency officials have said they plan to concentrate the planes on one or two European air bases to make it easier to deploy them in an emergency.
In recent years, troops from EU nations have operated in places like Lebanon, Congo or Aceh in Indonesia. They have relied mainly on the U.S. or NATO for logistical support because of their lack of air transport.
The new, much-delayed prototype of the A400M, the first military plane produced by Europe’s Airbus consortium, is scheduled to take to the sky soon. About 200 will enter service in eight EU air forces starting in 2009.
The defense ministers’ statement agreed to boost the capabilities of the EU’s transport helicopter fleets by 2009. This would include upgrading the obsolescent Soviet-built helicopters still in air force inventories in Eastern Europe, and a long-term Franco-German-led project to develop a new heavy-duty transport chopper.
The ministers also said they would make sure that at least one of Europe’s five operational aircraft carriers will be at sea at all times. These would be escorted by destroyers and frigates from various other EU nations, which would also provide refueling and other logistics vessels.
The European Defense Agency was created in 2004 to boost cooperation, eliminate duplication and end fragmentation of the European defense market, which is worth about 30 billion euros a year.
“These programs will create tangible European capabilities and improve the capacity for crisis management operations,” said EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, who chaired the meeting.
Source Associated press / International Herald Tribune 10 Nov. 2008
Pretty well anywhere South or East of Diego Garcia and into the Pacific should also be considered for a scenario like this. Thats a pretty large area now that the RN or RAF have next to no land based facilities available in that part of the world.
This months Desider has an article on the tank test of the CVF model. Its a pdf which is tricky to read as its spread over several pages.
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/9D92A487-EDD3-4056-A7D6-9A5FFAA8A0FC/0/desiderIssue6October08A4.pdf
How accurate are these models ? Reason I ask is that the deck lift appear significantly larger than any of the drawings or artists impressions I have seen (page 16)
The observant of you may also notice a picture of what looks to be a T45 hull being tank tested that looks a bit non-standard at the stern 😉