In terms of the US capability in the Littoral and what they could do to improve it, can someone confirm that what their mine clearing capability is these days ? I seem to recall reading somewhere that it had been significantly scaled back and may actually be less than that of the RN ? If a country was defending a likely littoral sea combat zone, mines would surely still feature.
If this decision were made, would it not effect the future of the F136 engine as well where I think it was being assumed the UK would likely be an early buyer ?
Nocutsto RAF. Well in real terms it might be out of date well within the aircrafts service life as they wouldn’t start flying from the CVF’s until 2016 anyway. By then the F35 will have been flying 10 years and the F18 SH maiden flight 25 years previously 🙁 I am not sure that anyone who buys a fighter at the end of its production run gets true value for money…………….
If this decision is made it will prove to be a false economy that will end up being reversed.
The SH will not be bought into the UK for anywhere near the same cost that the USA buys them for. The initial set up costs will be significant and then on top of that the MOD is going to have to dob out to integrate all the UK missile systems, and you can be sure there is bound to be some communication changes required that will also have to be paid for. I bet the eventual saving will not be anywhere near as minor as they thought
And where will we end up ? In Twenty years time they will have an aircraft that will be a rapidly aging design (some might say its heading that way now) when many of the UK’s friends will be operating a modern stealthy F35 and the UK won’t have any stealthy fast jets at all when the world has moved on. To me that sounds like they are setting themselves up for failure in the medium term for the sake of short term expediency.
I bet he keeps a copy of the Daily Mails second or third photo on his mantlepiece for posterity 😮
Happened to my car 4 years ago (It has aircraft flying over it all day being near Heathrow) and it cost me a new windscreen 🙁 A chap standing nearby who saw it happen said that he couldn’t work out where all the ice scattered around my car came from as he had initially thought something solid had hit it by the sound of the bang. He had never heard of aircraft dropping ice before.
Perhaps someone here will ask the question at Farnborough and come back to this thread with the response ?
Spoke to an old mate at Cambridge airport tonight about this. Apparently they had over 50 complaints about the Herc doing its tricks from the public 😮
Yes, I suspect the technical problems of operating a UAV for AEW of of a CVF would be significant. However, there is an opportunity here for BAE to at least start thinking about this sort of stuff. Time will tell.
Has the AEW situation re the CVF’s been bought to a conclusion yet ?
Reason I was thinking this is the press release in Flight Global the other day re Mantis, shows something that is starting to look pretty mature.
How long before someone starts to think, maybe this can do AEW up a ski jump ? 50k ceiling, 36 hours endurance, no crew to worry about ………………:rolleyes:
I thought the programme was rather good given the limitations on subject matter and what they could and could not film. I loved the last few minutes when they oh so carefully shepherded Astute out to sea using 4 very large tugs and about three smaller ones.
There wasn’t too much blurring out of things that they didn’t want you to see, but interestingly one major one was when a shot included a cross section of a slice of the pressure hull where they clearly didn’t want us to see how thick it was. Plus you never got to see the propulsor up close for real, only computer simulations of it (no doubt deliberately inaccurate) which I guess was inevitable
There was also scant mention of the design issues from a few years ago that nearly bought it all to a halt.
A pretty good effort by the BBC I thought. Definately worth a look on the iplayer if you are in the UK and missed it.
The fact that they found Oil in the Falklands last month is another factor that they will need to consider when they do their strategic review in terms of vessels in service. There could potentially be many hundreds of Billions of tax revenue sitting down there and as we all know it is a sensitive issue in South America.
Don’t the SAS already fly a couple of unique types in communication roles ? I seem to remember the Dauphin is one and the other something supposedly civilian and hence discrete ? Or has that now changed ?
So is it a cut price Astor or does it do other stuff ?
I seem to recall that there were reports of an indiginous medium/long range cruise missile being developed by Israel 7 or 8 years ago (not the delilah). Were these ever confirmed ? Such a weapon would increase their options significantly if it could be fielded in some numbers.