The Oceans engines may prove upgradeable as the RR Crossley engines she is fitted with are apparently available with more power, but no doubt that would need to wait until a major refit. I suspect Rolls Royce could find a solution if asked
Tin wing has a point. My own hunch is that the RN may end up with two CVF’s and two LPH’s at about 2016. As to whether this means that Ocean is retired and two new vessels built or she is retained and a new LPH with more capability is built, thats a moot point and depends on money. The RN know that with an ever smaller navy that they need innovative options to cover contingencies and the ability to operate an F35 (or maybe a few old Harrier’s) off another platform could be very useful if one of the CVF’s was unavailable or damaged. All speculation of course, but something like this would nicely put the icing on what would be an expeditionary capabilty second only to the USA in this part of the globe.
Now quite where they would get the frgates to support that little lot is a different matter…………..A cheap Global Corvette project perhaps ? :diablo:
There have been various rumours that the RN will extend the current study into a new LPH to replace the Ark Royal when it retires in 2012-14 with a ship capable of flying the F-35’s if required. The RN are past masters at getting this sort of thing by the politico’s and the bean counters without them noticing so it wouldn’t surprise me if it were capable of operating the F35 (no doubt with some cheap modifications) when they select their next platform.
The video is just before the skydiving section on the attached page. You will no doubt have all seen it before anyway
The imperial war museum in London may be able to help. They had a database that the public could play with (via a simplified screen and keyboard) the last time I went a few years ago, and you could look up every pretty well every known enemy bomb that had dropped and caused damage during the war. I think it used ARP records that someone had computerised, but I may be wrong. I used it to search down an off target V1 that partially destroyed my fathers house in the North Essex countryside, but it took some time as I don’t think you could search geographically or there was some other querk that I now forget. It even named the individuals killed or injured or made homeless in each case iirc. It looked ripe to go ‘on-line’ on the net even back then
Isn’t there some great film on the net of one being deck launched ? It was very impressive film from what I remember
I knew about the US Joint services thing but I have seen it mentioned in a couple of articles early in the programme in the UK, to mean Joint as in multi-national, and the thought must have stuck in my mind.
Isn’t there supposed to be advantages in the two island design in terms of crosswinds; as well as communications and radar fit, in that potentially conflicting transmissions can be placed some distance apart on each island. Or is that just spin from the designers ?
I don’t thimk the technical information is in anyway in doubt. If you read the various reports from the UK parliament that have recently been published about its progress this is not mentioned as a risk. The project would never have been called the JOINT strike fighter had it not been the intention of one party to share.
It would be nice to see something on the NG website to say that the E-2 can do the same as its been quiet since all the earlier discussions on here. Coz if they can do it on the Vik, they might be suitable for the RN’s new CVF’s.
Could something like this be an option for the UK’s Vanguards in a couple of the Trident tubes, or would you never compromise a strategic boat by adding a tactical option ? I don’t think the Vanguards carry the Torpedo launched version, unlike the Trafalgars ?
Why have the Island so far back ? there have been so many carriers built in the last 90 years that would have thought they would have defined best practice by now 😀
Is this the one thats going to have the electro-magnetic launch system ? Last thing I heard the RN were going to offer to part fund its development, but was being held up due to American government rules on sharing new technology ?
I think its fascinating that the old Hermes is still providing good service. She was after all from a class of austere design light fleet carriers, that had an expected life of no more than 3-5 years and had little or no armour and more importantly little corrosion resistance in their design. Hermes ‘only’ took 14 years to build on and off her hull being laid down before 1945
Is the Minas Gerais (formerly Vengeance) still in existance or has it now been scrapped ?
Thanks guys, I had forgotten that the Trident silos were so large to accomodate a 60 tonne missile, and also that the tom is so slim. Its an interesting concept.
Does anyone know of a cuttaway pic of the SSGN. I would be fascinated to see where they store 154 tomahawks. No doubt they occupy the space formerly used for the nukes but 154 is a lot of ordinance. What is the likelyhood of them actually carrying that many ?
Accomodation must be tight 😀
Terrific photos
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