Presumably with the new UK CVF’s having an in service life of 50 years, mitigating corrosion must be one of the the most important aspects of the design
There are also attractions in the fuel that the aircraft are using can also power the carrier, assuming its going to use derivatives of the trent engines for power
Interesting debate guys, there can be no doubt the Chile has a nice little navy. It is though oft forgotten what an enormous amount of Blue water Chile has to patrol from the mainland westwards 2500 miles to Easter island and North to south from 18 degree South of the equator down to the ice where sea conditions are the worst in the world, so a good size navy would be needed.
See their English language website (a nice touch)
http://www.armada.cl/p4_ingles/site/edic/base/port/home.html
Britain and Chile have always had such good military and in particular Naval relations due to the British naval assistance in the founding of the Chilean state and Chile has always been grateful for this. This is why one of the current Ships is named after the Famous RN officer Cochrane who went to assist at that time.
I would imagine that they will be delighted with their type 23’s as I bet they got them for a bargain price. Anyone else would probably of had to have paid top dollar.
Anyone else think they might find themselves in posession of a flat top and 20 Harriers in a few years also courtesy of the RN ?
Been doing a bit of digging on this and it would appear as stated above that the French are definately in. There will be a formal memorandum of understanding signed in early 2006 (Jan or Feb) and they will also offer to pay some of the development costs so far. They will build their vessel as a separate project though and there will be a lot of commonality but there will be differences as we suspected. Whats the betting that they manage to build theirs for £500 million less than the UK ? :dev2: 😀 :diablo: 😮
Dumb question time. The graphic shows 40 aircraft yet the current vessels hold 22. The new ships are more than double the size of the old, so is the 40 aircraft compliment a conservative (cheaper) peacetime number and that a wartime uplift would be greater ?
And what are they doing about Maritime Airborne Surveillance and Control ? Have they said anything yet ? Is it going to be a helicopter based option or will they beef up the front undercarriage of a hawkeye to cope with the ski-ramp ?
Also I can’t believe that the French would jump out of the programme now, as now is an opportunity to reduce the cost of their own projects with bulk purchases and common technology
The term comes unsurprisingly from the navy, Where the largest ship was usually the one where the admiral was based and so it was the base of the squadrons power. The admiral was intitled to fly a unique flag to identify him as such. Hence the term flagship. I am sure one of our Naval experts can fill in more detail
Part of the problem is that the Pumping station that moves the fuel was beside the depot that exploded and has apparently been damaged. This will also prevent Shell/BP pumping various fuels to/from their yard which was slightly further away from the one that exploded and recieved less damage.
I don’t know for certain but I wouldn’t be surprised if somewhere like Heathrow may use in excess of 10 million litres of fuel a day, and if you take say a third of that away, it becomes a logistical nightmare to tanker in say 3 million plus litres which would be up to 120 truck loads, so as Skymonster suggests this may go on for a while until they find another way. Reducing demand by up to a third by applying uplift restrictions is part of this
Did anyone hear the interview with an Aviation luminary (Tony Aster?) on BBC Radio 5 tonight ? He said that things are much more disrupted than was originally thought and that at Heathrow they are now restricting the fuel supply to long haul airlines as well (I forget the percentage of ‘normal’ uplift they will be allowed) which will mean that some airlines will need to do technical stop overs for fuel at other airfields en-route.
He did also say that Qantas was diverting its Sydney flights to Stansted tomorrow (Stansted is completely unaffected as its fuel comes from elsewhere) and named another long haul airline that would be doing the same which I didn’t catch.
My contacts suggest that this may not actually happen tomorrow, but could be on the cards later.
Apparently this situation is not helped by the fact that the Air BP main office in Hemel was also damaged in the blast and staff have had to be relocated.
Does anyone know how they are coping at Luton ? Are they trucking fuel in ? If so from where , Gatwick, Stansted ?