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  • in reply to: Su-57 News and Discussion -version_we_lost_count!- #2127874
    Isengard
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    I’m not aware of anything where the Typhoon really stands out.

    Better acceleration and turning than F-22 especially when in clean A2A mode (no tanks).

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2150630
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    So many F-22 fans don’t like hearing about how that plane isn’t the greatest. Many source point to T-50 faster than F-22. Speed of at least 2600 km/ h here.

    https://ria.ru/analytics/20150825/1206610642.html

    Многофункциональный истребитель Т-50 способен завоевывать господство в воздухе, поражать широкий спектр воздушных, наземных и морских целей. Полная техническая информация об этом самолете доступна лишь узкому кругу специалистов. Из открытых источников известно, что Т-50 по размаху крыла и длине больше F-22 и меньше Су-27, обладает радиолокационной малозаметностью, сверхзвуковой крейсерской скоростью до 2600 км в час без использования форсажа, способностью маневрирования с большими перегрузками. Возможно, серийный образец будет значительно отличаться от прототипов.

    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/analytics/20150825/1206610642.html

    Some news about autonumous systems.

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201708141056451784-russia-plane-computer/

    Russia’s fifth-generation fighter jet, formerly known as the Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation (PAK FA), or Sukhoi T-50, has officially been named the Su-57. In an interview with Sputnik, aviation expert Viktor Pryadka said that the Su-57 is a computerized multifunctional complex capable of flying on its own.
    “Each such plane becomes a computer center which is able to decide exactly what type of arms and ammo it needs for a specific combat mission. In the UAV mode, the plane can reach its target much faster with overloads of up to 15 G, while the maximum overload a pilot can endure does not exceed 10 G,” said Viktor Pryadka, the CEO of the Avintel Aviation Technologies Alliance.

    The T-50 can do 15 G in autonomous mode.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2151280
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/15/new-russian-jet-could-faster-launch-missiles-farther-than-u-s-f-22/568787001/

    SU-57 faster than F-22 as admitted by US media.

    The Russian air force will soon get the first batch of its much-anticipated, supersonic fighter jets, but at least one U.S. expert is not impressed.

    United Aircraft Corporation CEO Yuri Slyusar told the Russian news agency Tass that a pre-production batch of about a dozen jets, recently named Su-57s, will be made available to military pilots in advance of final design work. That’s expected to be completed in 2019.

    “The plane has got its name like a child after the birth,” Air Force Commander-in-Chief Viktor Bondarev told Rossiya 24 TV Channel. “Pilots will be learning to operate it.”

    Bondarev called the Su-57 a “wonderful machine” at an aviation expo last month, and the jet has received an extensive promotional push from Russian state media, Newsweek reported. Richard Aboulafia, vice president of the defense market analysis firm Teal Group, was not buying the hype.

    “The Russians really like talking big, but the cash and technology just don’t seem to be there,” Aboulafia told USA TODAY.

    Russian state media has reported the Su-57’s maximum speed at 1,600 mph, which would be slightly more than the F-22 Raptor. Newsweek reported the Su-57’s missile range, based on the information available, also exceeds the F-22.

    “Every country probably wants planes such as this, and we have them,” Bondarev said of the Su-57.

    Aboulafia, however, says Russia must create new technology, particularly engine technology, to meet reach the specifications it is claiming.

    “They still need to find the cash to fund the development of the complete version of this aircraft,” he said. “They’ve been trying for quite some time.”

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2193851
    Isengard
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    Dont want to say told you so, actually, yes i do. Told you so;

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2017/05/17/690146-gosprogramma-vooruzhenii

    Thanks, Tu-160M2.

    Lider was cool but it was also insane, no tears shed whatsoever for the new carrier, but shame about PAK-DP. 🙁

    T-50 easily takes the roll of PAK-DP with similar speed performance to intercept.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2139623
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    Do not the T-50 and other various Sukhoi have to perform tasks, with a war with China being greater thought than the U.S., have to perform more like the old F-105 & F-106?
    Both having long range but one having the ability to exit target area at very high speed and the other the ability to reach targets at a very high speed.

    For intercepts, the T-50 within Russia, will always have emergency landing bases or tankers available should reaching bingo fuel be necessary on a mission, while other Sukhoi tactical aircraft can deliver weapons and due to longer range boogey home catching a tanker or emergency base if need be.
    With this in mind, high speed whether chasing a target or clearing target area is very , very important.

    Exactly and Berkut is foolishly ignoring obvious design features of T-50 that make it much less drag and faster than F-22 in supercruise and max speed. Russia is large with lots of area so T-50 need lot of speed to get to the fight.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2142357
    Isengard
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    You are right regarding supercruise but wrong re F-22. It is not overhyped and yes MiG-31 has longer range while being supersonic by bruteforcing it. But with F-22 USAF had a choice between more fuel or better maneuverability. F-22 ended up with more maneuverability.

    The PAK-FA is faster plane than F-22 with much more fuel and much sleaker and more aerodynamic shape. It can do interceptor role much better than F-22 can ever dream. Most economic solution is to use PAK-FA variant for interceptor because it can do most of MiG-31 job.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2142708
    Isengard
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    I am comparing MiG-31 to Su-27 to get my point across because PAK-DP is not real, yet. You are clearly missing the point. PAK-FA is not, and will never be interceptor. Just like Su-27 will never be able to fill the tasks MiG-31 is doing, get it? There is a reason PAK-DP is a project. Also jesus christ on a stick, 384 m/s is not a real figure. It is 100% BS and even the most basic critical thinking and google would show that to you.

    Your video link is pointless. There is nothing happening at 8 min mark of any relevance to the discussion.

    PAK-FA will supercruise over Mach 2 just like MiG-31 and can carry large long range missiles like izd 810 so it can take the MiG-31 role. PAK-DP can just use variant of PAK-FA T-50.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2142747
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    Are you trying to tell us Su-27 can do the same things as MiG-31? Because that is the difference we are talking about here. Last i checked Su-27 cant fly sustained at 20km+ altitude, fire missiles 100km+ away, stay at Mach 2+ for a long sustained time or work in a group covering 1000km+ of airspace.

    We’re talking about PAK-FA not Su-27. PAK-FA with bigger wings and more powerful engines can easily supercruise at 2000+km/h like MiG-31. PAK-FA can also climb and defend itself much better and can climb at 384 m/s. See around 8 minute mark.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2143573
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    UAC DEVELOPS INTERCEPTOR TO REPLACE THE MIG-31

    https://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2017/03/17/427901.html

    Why need a new interceptor when PAK-FA can do the same thing? Unless they think the new interceptor is a PAK-FA variant.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2205819
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dggtma54dZc

    PAK-FA extremely fast climb speed.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2196768
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    During testing the aircraft managed to achieve a 384 meters per second climbing rate. According to Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta, such a climbing speed would’ve allowed the warplane to reach an altitude equal to the peak of Mount Everest, the highest mountain on Earth, in a mere 23 seconds.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160220/1035076981/russian-stealth-aircraft-new-record.html#ixzz40qlPrbij

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2197847
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    Well, the original might have had nicer angle, but the replacement is much sharper and larger in size. Here is the original;

    http://i.imgur.com/ocNFLpp.jpg

    T-50 have the best area ruling of any fighter aircraft. It should be a monster at supercruise..

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2157572
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    I think we have a misunderstanding here actually. I wasn’t thinking of Bondarev quote but rather Mikhaylov quote where he clearly stated the requirement was lowered from M2.15 to M2. What did Bondarev say, exactly?

    Bondarev said T-50 will go more than mach 2. T-50 will clearly be faster than F-22 and people in authority like Alexander Zelin have confirmed. It funny how you magicly trust Mikhailov who said crap like T-50 will fly in 2007. F-22 is 20 year old design with outdated materials. T-50 with more powerful engines and sleeker frame should no problem be faster and accelerate better than F-22, theres no reason to doubt that.

    https://www.rt.com/news/262657-pakfa-better-us-5g/

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2162511
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    You are blind if you can see the speed advantage of T-50 over F-22. T-50 have many things like variable inlet compared to F-22 simple fixed inlet, and newer engines and sleeker more aerodynamic shape with more wing sweep, do not have boxy F-22 fuselage. T-50 use caret inlet to wave ride and create lift. T-50 used it better than F-22, that’s why they transversely set the rectangular section of the caret inlet. The longer the horizontal wedged edge, the more lift will be. With new second stage engines and new high temperature composites T-50 can supercruise mach 2 and max speed over 2500 km/h.

    https://rostechnologiesblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/russian-developers-surprised-by-t-50-performance/

    Tell me what did Bondarev really say, he made max speed more than mach 2 very clear.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2162590
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    Can we stop posting this information as if it was confirmed or true? I asked a spotter that hangs around Zhukovsky a lot whether this information could be true and whether pilots would share this kind of detailed information in radio chatter. This was afterall supposedly information from scanners. He said that no, it is very unlikely they would say something like this in open broadcast for the whole world to hear.

    There is no reason T-50 can’t make these speeds. It have very low drag meant for supersonic flight and variable inlets for speed much higher than mach 2 and confirmed by Bondarev. and powerful type 30 engines and new high temperature composites, all of which point to very high speed. Compare shape of T-50 and F-22, the T-50 should have much better speed and acceleration.

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