If there is a more illusory factor in this than China’s supposed economic leverage over the US I have no idea what it is!.

If China likes exporting its industrial product to the US, and the quarter trillion dollar trade surplus that exists in its favour, then I’d suggest that turning the screw on the US and further putting the skids under the economy of all those lovely consumers would be extraordinarily unwise!. Wasnt there a 25% drop in exports recorded for China just last month?. I saw a piece on the BBC that stated China needed to maintain 8% growth just for the graduates its universities are turning out to be able to find employment?.

China is definitely in a position to tear the US a new backside economically. The victory would be a hollow one though.

They are wrong about this, which explains most of the mainstream economists didn’t see the crash coming.

Think about an island where there is a couple of Chinese people and a couple of Americans. The Chinese works day and night to cook, gather food for the Americans and then feed the Americans, get paid. Which Chinese people lend back to the Americans, so that they can do the same work the next day all over again. Which they get paid for and then lend back to Americans. Of course, the Americans can never pay back because they don’t do anything. Now according to your typical brainwashed economist, the Americans are central to this economy, because they provide demand. But wouldn’t the Chinese people do better if they just leave the Americans off to starve itself and cook food just for themselves? Now instead, they’ve been funding these ridiculous American debt, part of which is obviously being used on a larger military budget this year. So, Chinese lending is actually helping the US military, think about things that way.

This is the obvious factor I am amazed that has taken this long for the Chinese side, on here, to come up with. When you know someone is analysing and watching you show them what they expect to see!. Whether this is a stealth fighter with RF enhancers or a missile boat with some of its accoustic insulation compromised while you know SURTASS is in the area. You take away the advantage the enemy will get from his surveillance and he’ll stop wasting resources on that surveillance.

Problem for the Chinese is that, whilst it knows about SURTASS, it won’t know where and when there are US SSN’s around who’s data will be used to validate SURTASS. Move and counter move….the way the game has ever been played.

One thing is for certain though – the kind of clumsy and unsophisticated attempts to interfere with SURTASS as demonstrated in this incident will achieve nothing beneficial to PLAN ops.

well, I think part of the problem is not just the spying, but operating on China’s background. If you take a look at any Chinese map, they basically claimed the entire South China Sea as part of the boundary. When US surface force operates between Hainan and some of the disputed islands controlled by China, that in many ways reduces China’s claims to these islands.

You are quoting moral standards to me when you are defending clear breaches of maritime law?

Steaming 75 miles off the coast in international waters is harassing?. The PLAN may not like what the USN is doing. Just as we didnt like Sov AGI’s off Faslane in the bad old days but its nothing new and you dont deal with it like this!

I’ve been reading this argument all day and I’m not sure it works. Just because US and Soviets agreed to a protocol in cold war, that doesn’t mean China has to agree to the same one. US and Soviet could spy off each other’s coast, but China obviously doesn’t have that capability.

In the long run, they need to figure out a protocol for this. That’s what the direct military line should be for.

As for the interpretation of UNCLOS, I’m sure if we get a lawyer in here, he/she can probably smack all of us down with arguments.

we can also add in the 2 093s, 1 091G, 1 094 (I think there maybe even more than that) based there. Although NSF still has 2 nuclear sub base to the one in SSF. They are also have 5 out of the 8 major supply ships, 883, 884, 885, 887 888. There are already 2 054As in SSF and I think the next 2 are going there too.

What appears to be happening is SSF will split off into SSF and another power projection fleet that’s based in Sanya.

No and they don’t care.

sure they are, which part do you think they are violating? They already paid for the rights to build 200 flankers which they are still probably 80 aircraft short. They’ve paid the money for all the parts that they signed for. They haven’t tried to export it, which part of the agreement do you think they are violating?

American engine for a Chinese military aircraft. Now I have seen it all.

this is for the civilian version of Z-11.

Nothing new. Exported K8s have Garret Engines. The Z-10 attack chopper has a Canadian Pratt and Whitney Turbo Shaft. The Y-9 has an option for Pratt and Whitney turbo fans. JH-7 used RR Speys, the same engine used on British Phantoms. So in any future conflict between India and China, the Chinese war effort will have US and western support and financing, in addition to significant Russian and Israeli input. And off course their is Pakistani support specially in humint and behind the lines activities. This is when the likes of you are proud to fly the US and Israeli flags

Chinese are too paranoid to use Western engines for mass production. Z-10 is using WZ-9 as its engine. Y-9 project has been abandoned. JH-7A is using WS-9, which is not exactly the same as Spey. They went through a long certification process for it to sort out all the problems in the engine, which suggests its clearly not an exact copy or licensed production of Spey.

the article’s quality is actually shockingly low for something posted on xinhua. It’s definitely not an official position, but rather someone’s opinion. Actually, it’s more like a gathering of other articles posted on this.

In future that really might not matter given that there’d be multiple constellations like GLONASS and Galileo and even Beidou. Though I’d only consider Galileo as a serious competitor in terms of coverage and accuracy.

not sure about Glonass, but the accuracy for Beidou is expected to be less than 1m for the military version and 10 m for the open version. That’s comparable to 1m and 8m for Galileo. And the way they are getting launched now, it looks like Beidou will be completed before Galileo.

The entire PLA already uses Beidou.

Simply because there is no suitable diesel or Gas turbine solution for powering carriers. Commercial marine diesel currently available are designed to run at only 16kts and are too massive in size.
Btw a carriers will always need boilers for fresh water. It makes sense to reduce redundancy.

gas turbine should be available soon. QC-185, QC-260 for example.

A lot of stuff in development are not as good as foreign designs, but they have to suffice since PLA is generally paranoid about using foreign parts.

If you don’t believe how fast China can build carrier just think about why they are in such urgent need to buy su-33s even though domestic naval flanker project has either flied already or will fly this year or why they have started a naval flight school recently and are trying to train Ukraine. Varyag is likely not going to do too much, so that leaves domestic carrier as the only answer.

unless they manage to put catapult on IAC, I don’t see how they are going to be to put the bug and rafales on there.