Yes, I am working but at the same time have been watching, out the corner of my eye, ‘Ice Cold in Alex’, one of my favourite WW2 films, had forgotten about the scene featuring a Beaufighter, I noticed it had target towing stripes underside and was in fact one of the earlier marks without the dorsal fin.
I was also unaware that the glasses as featured in the film during the last scene were actually marked with the Carlsberg logo, I was always under the impression that it was a trick of the advertising campaign, anyway, Carlsberg, in Eygpt 1942, c’mon.
Now on is ‘Spirit of St Louis’, didn’t realise it was made in colour, have missed most of it, doesn’t seem so good, however, despite the presence of James Stewart.
Next on the list is ‘Reach for the Sky’ in about an hour on Film 4, this hasn’t been mentioned on the slightly interesting Bader thread, which I won’t go anywhere near.
Then of course we have the Red Arrows at 17:00 on BBC1 with the Bader programme on later, I would suggest that a clear head is needed for this, don’t read the thread and form your own opinions.
You make an interesting point – would Carlsberg have been available in Egypt in 1942? I have often wondered this myself. Carlsberg obviously originates from Denmark which was occupied by the Germans. But breweries like Carlsberg often set up production plants in other countries e.g. Cyprus where they have such a plant. Stella has had a brewery for Egypt for about 100 years.
Interestingly in “The Colditz Story” there is a scene in the Germans’ canteen where you see crates of Carlsberg. Would this be accurate or inaccurate?
Another point I have often wondered. Surely this wonderful cold beer which John Mills’ character craves would have have been draught not bottled?
Colin
It is listed on the Internet Movie Database as being 185 minutes long but shown over two episodes. It was broadcast in 1996.
Colin
I have a 1/24 Airfix model of a Ju 87B suspended above my desk. I just checked it and it doesn’t have a rear view mirror. Why would you need one if you have a rear gunner?
Colin
Of course the arguments raised by these historians is nothing new. I read exactly the same argument in Wing Commander Dizzy Allen’s book “Who Really Won the Battle of Britain?” 30 years ago.
Colin
Well “Pearl” did employ three Zeros whereas “Tora” used Zero Replicas. Apart from that one point I would say “Tora” is superior in every way.
I believe a minsub sequence was originally to be included in “Pearl” but was dropped to save cash.
Colin
Buried Lancasters?
In August 1990 the “Sunday Express” carried a story about several intact Avro Lancasters buried in a field near Brigg. They showed up on ground mapping radar. However when they finally did the excavation they found there was virtually nothing left. What they had seen on ground radar were like “fossils” as everything had corroded away.
There are also rumours that some Mosquito wrecks were buried at Bovingdon following the filming of “633 Squadron” there in 1963.
Colin
Don’t forget Guy Gibson was only 24 when he lead the dams raid so a young,short ,boyish looking actor would need to be cast. Even Richard Todd was really too old for the part in 1954 (36 I think).
Bst Wishes,
Colin
Thanks Vern. It’s been decades since I saw it.
There was also a CASA 2.111 (Heinkel 111) in Red Dwarf!
In fact the “Heinkel” was a model.In the opening shot it was a very large ,realistic model made for another BBC drama production ( can’t remember the name). For the secene where the Heinkel explodes they used a Revell/Monogram 1/48 plastic kit.
Colin
One of the old b&w episodes of “The Avengers” featured Steed wandering around a deserted airfield on which was parked a Mosquito. Could have been RR233 at Hatfield or maybe RS712 at West Malling???
When “No.6” escapes from “The Village” in “The Prisoner” he is taken back in a two seat Meteor and when flying over the pilot ejects him – much to his chagrin. I think its one of the Martin-Baker examples.
Oh well – back to work!
The “Avengers” episode was “The Hour That Never Was” and it was filmed at RAF Bovingdon. I think the Mosquito was RS712 which was then still at Bovingdon following “633 Squadron” . Anyone like to confirm this?
Best Wishes,
Colin
RAF PR.9s played their part Colin… another 6 years and perhaps the full story can be let out of the bag!
I look forward to hearing this. As you say in 2012 the 30 years rule will mean that a lot of Falklands secrets will be made public.
Colin
Nop chance of a Harrier flying in the U.K in historic hands. I doubt the Navy would have anything that is in any way servicable by then. Similarily the Canberra PR.9’s that did work over the Falklands will be retired by then too. I would like to see Chinook ‘Bravo November’ lead the parade at lower level.
Canberras over the Falklands? I have never heard of this one before . The Argentines used Canberras in the Falkland Wars but no RAF ones ever took part. How would they reach the Falklands anyway? I don’t think Canberras have an air refuelling capability.
Colin
That wouldn’t be this bunch would it Bruce?
They’re clearly experts on the Mosquito as they keep calling it the DH86! :rolleyes:
Yes I know of this website but what I was talking about was some new information emanating from the USA,not that 633squadron.com stuff which has been around for six years.
By the way here’s a little query about the original film. They had five airworthy Mosquitoes in the movie but I cannot find a shot in the film featuring more than four flying together and in fact many shots only had three. However there is one shot where five Mosquitoes can be seen taxying together. Anyone like to comment on this.?
Colin
The airfield scene from Force 10 from Navarone was filmed here in Jersey, and in fact actually no where near an airfield.
Mark I’ll see what I can do !!!
The two dimensional “cardboard cutout” Lancaster used in this scene must be the most unconvincing movie prop ever – compare with the very effective 2 dimensional flats used in “Memphis Belle” and ” A Bridge Too Far”. The mockup fuselage interior was pretty poor too. Why didn’t they just use a real Dakota?
TCM featured the 1965 film Operation Crossbow this evening. A reasonable film with a diverse cast. However the interesting stars “for me” were a number of aircraft that feature:-
Early in the film a Spitfire is seen taxiing to a halt and a film cartridge being removed. This appears to be a MkIX/IX or maybe a genuine MkXI though it doesn’t appear to have the deeper lower cowling to accomodate the large oil tank.
Later after the first bombing raid to destroy Peenemunde a Lancaster is also seen taxiing to a halt, I guess that this maybe PA474.
Anyone got any ideas which aircraft featured in this film ?
Group Captain Hamish Mahaddie was the aviation adviser on this production and the Lancaster used was indeed PA474 which at that time lacked a nose turret. The Spitfire was Mark IX MH 434 which was painted in PR blue for the film.
Incidentally almost every published account of the history of Lancaster PA474 states that it was featured in “The Guns of Navarone”. In fact it was never used in this film which featured only model Lancs. Some footage of PA474 was used in “Force 10 from Navarone”.
Was Blackbushe featured in “Eye of the Needle?”
There is a scene in “Eye of the Needle” (1981) where Donald Sutherland’s character stumbles across an airfield full of Allied planes which he then discovers are dummies. Was this filmed at Blackbushe using the ex – “Hanover Street” Mitchells?
Colin