No, APA is Carlo Kopp’s personal contribution to the community. Coming from a member as wrightwing that’s supposedly an attempt to discredit your posts. IOW he just played the Kopp-card on you.
He’s making all the Kopp arguments to try to portray things which he has no clue about.
So the JSF is only an effective weapon if it is facing inferior enemies?
Nice to know you accept its crap too then. 😉
I’m not sure where you got that out of anything I said. Keep reading APA though.:rolleyes:
another polite, correct post, are you going to make a habit of this 😀
does a 70k tail wind count :diablo:
i was using the numbers posted in this thread
there are a few missiles that are trying to improve the end game, but meteor seems to be leading
it will be interesting to see if we choose the meteor
lets not start with NEZ, this is hard enoughare you able to explain to us why the mica ir cant on-board passively engage at that range
The MICA can be guided via datalink, till it’s close enough for its IR seeker to acquire the target. The info can be derived via it’s ESM or IRST(and presumably through 3rd party targetting info as well).
About the only thing right there is the last sentence.
The wing leading edge spar has a much larger total area than a plate within the radardome.
The T/R modules are individually much bigger, and will handle correspondingly larger amounts of power.
The leading edge spar may be larger than the radar array in the nose, but……the entire leading edge spar isn’t the size of the array contained within. We’re talking about 2 arrays with 12 modules, with a ~4.8kw total power output for both arrays. The system has a very narrow elevation search coverage(+5 deg/-15 deg), so the target would optimally need to be in a co-altititude setting.
Additionally, against VLO targets, the tactically useful range is pretty limited(much lower than IRST range- i.e. 5-10nm vs. Raptor and 10-15nm vs F-35).
Of course.
Just the same as the other guy targetting the F-35’s support platforms and leaving it having to fend for itself.
But that somehow is never considered on here.
The F-22 is good enough to fend for itself in such a situation. In comparison the F-35 is a little child that needs its hand held by off-board sensors.
Remove those sensors, and remove most the threat of the F-35.
Which other air force is going to compete at the systems level though first of all. Secondly, that’s not how the USAF and other partners feel about the F-35’s capabilities.
Actually, wing’s leading edge is much wider than radome aperture, so could you be more specific?
It may be wider, but I’m talking surface area, and density of T/R modules.
How do you figure, “it’s not going to have nearly the power output of the main array”?
A- it’s not the main sensor
B- how much power is available to this array, if all the other avionics systems are also drawing power?
C- how much room for cooling is there vs. using the space for fuel, etc…
Could you be more spcific about L-band’s inability to track?
LPI can’t be detected, then??
There’s a reason why fire control radars use X band. It has high resolution which allows for detection, tracking, and firing solutions. Other bands don’t have the accuracy to provide guidance information.
I though USAF had this ability some 40/50 years ago??
Can you be more specific?
I’m not sure what you’re asking for. The F-35 has modern systems providing precision interferometric capabilities. I’m not sure what else to tell you.
What’s the aperture size of PAK-FA’s L-band radar?
I don’t have the exact phyiscal dimensions, but with an antenna in the leading edge of a wing, it’s going to be much smaller than the main antenna. Additionally, it’s not going to have nearly the power output of the main array, and L band doesn’t have the resolution to track/guide weapons. Like I said, it’ll be useful to cue the IRST, but unless it’s LPI, it’ll serve as a beacon.
Do you know what does it do and can you elaborate “elaborate ESM”, more?
ESM- the systems that detect electronic emissions(i.e. radar, communications, jammers, datalinks, etc…), and then provide information about the location of the source.
Much as the L band on the PAK FA is at this point somewhat conjecture, isn’t the “F35 will have a great, in fact better than everything else, avionics suite” also a little bit of a finger crossing and praying strategy? 😉
At least production equivalents of F-35 systems are flying right now.
And you know that how?
Aperture size, and resolution. If L band were a viable band for targeting, then why have an X band radar at all.
Could you elaborate this some more?
(BTW, does F35 have ALR94?)
The F-35 doesn’t, but it does have its own elaborate ESM suite.
yes thats how i read it
Of course then that whole nothing ever goes as planned factor comes into play.
would you like to explain to me how the mica ir is controlled and targeted by the osf/laser for ‘passive’ bvr ?
as well as when planes have a laser warning ?also by your post, you are saying that wvr the HUD is sufficient againts the ef and latest us hms and weapons
something i disagree withdo you have a link to where the hms was successfully tested/fitted on the rafale ?
I think what he’s saying is that due to the passive engagement ranges, it’s not expected that a threat will get close enough for a HMS to come into play, if I’m understanding him correctly.
yes the aesa is in test for the fleet, osf-it and an engine upgrade requirering inlet redesign for 9 ton, but “are already funded and ordered” i havent seen this stated
so the hms was initially required by fr and postponed. when exports get hms, fr wont put on own fleet, i wouldnt put money on thatmica ir 50-60k, i dont think so, nor does the topic on airdefence, the rf is
The MICA may very well be able to reach out that far, but will require radar/data links/ESM data to provide targeting info, till the missile is close enough for its IR seeker to lock on.
WIll it not have L-band radars as well?
It will indeed, but those won’t be of any help at long ranges, or for firing solutions. At best, they’ll help the IRST have an idea where to scan, but in doing so will let the ALR-94 know of the PAK FA’s presence in the process.
And that’s why the russians never did bother to develop an super duper ULF Sam system…or the crappy cellphone sam network..
What a surprise 🙂
Well considering they’ve modified Mig 21s with RAM, getting them down to .25m^2, and a clean F-18E is ~.1m^2, I wouldn’t say .3m^2 is a big accomplishment.:cool:
According to their research, 0.3m2 is the about the maximum that can be achieved by the shape of the aircraft (with current technology). It’s mentioned in one of their research papers from the early 2000’s…..since the application of RAM wasn’t mentioned, I’m assuming they meant just the shape of the aircraft.
It still doesn’t make sense from either a marketing, or gee whiz standpoint, to mention the RCS prior to adding RAM. I’m also somewhat skeptical about that .3m^2 claim being the maximum that’s achievable via shaping alone. You’re not going to get to VLO by merely slapping RAM on a design. Shaping is important if you’re wanting to get orders of magnitude improvements, with RAM playing a role in signature management.