Eurofighter Typhoon squares up to F-35 challenge

Typhoon fighter jet test pilot Craig Penrice no longer flies.

Seven years ago he ejected from a jet with engine failure and ended up with a broken back and a new career.

These days Mr Penrice is a member of Eurofighter’s business development team, pitching the Typhoon to air crews, air forces and defence ministries around the world.

“I want the boys who do the jobs I used to do to have the best equipment available,” he says.

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It’d be far more interesting if he cited some facts and figures, to compare the 2 aircraft, rather than offering subjective analysis.

Come on..
PP got a point. If the USAF does not see this sound, why on earth should a small country like Taiwan try it..
B.d.w. Taiwan barely get anything from US these days, so a B-1R..:D

And another thing.. A B-1R would be defined a high asset.
A singel K-100 series missile could ruin a B-1R day completly.;)

Hmm, interesting. A missile not in service vs. a version of a bomber, not currently in operation.

As anyone who truthfully looks at the performance of the AC and ignores the performance of the program should be able to agree, it is an AC that has traded pure aero performance in order to accommodate three different aircraft needs into one airframe.

Ok, let’s look at the performance. What are the instantaneous/sustained turn rates, acceleration time from M.9 to M1.6+, time to climb from brake release to 40k feet, corner velocity, roll rate, etc… of the F-35, and how do they compare with the competition?

It uses a monstrously powerful engine to offset high weight, but suffers in wing loading.

What’s the net wing loading, after body lift is factored in?

However, if its adversary makes it into the merge it will be at a disadvantage against any 4+, or 5th generation fighter (though with all due respect, the J-20 is still a ? for me in a tight turning environment).

Could you provide some numbers, for purpose of comparison with regards WVR performance, for the F-35, and all other 4+/5 gen fighters? Could you explain the relative merits that +/- degrees per second turn rates vs. the ability to see/engage in all quadrants?

The F-35C isn’t replacing Super Hornets. The 2 types will fly side by side, in a High/Low mix. It’s the legacy Hornets that are being replaced.

actually i think medium speeds 0,4-1M F-35 will be a good preformer.
The engine with enormous thust and high bypass will do the trick.
But the high wingloading will probably not be as greacefull..

The high wing loading doesn’t factor in body lift, which the F-35 has considerably more of, than an F-16.

I look at claims holistically, in order to get a composite picture, rather thean cherry picking statements. The very article you posted earlier says the F-35 is nimble. Other test pilots have compared it with clean F-16s/F-22(subsonic performance) in terms of turning/acceleration(I.e. regularly running away from F-16s in dry thrust/nose pointing/post stall.
LM has said it has better ITR/STR/acceleration than F-16s and F-18s. Other Air Force publications have said the F-35 w/ 2 JDAMs and 2 AMRAAMs, turns better than a clean F-16, etc…. Critics like to take isolated claims, that don’t jive with everything else that has been said. Jon Beesley also said that it wasn’t designed for air shows, but then said it handles like an F-22 subsonically, etc…

So….in light of this, I suspect F-35s will put on good displays vs. F-16/F-18s, even if they weren’t designed for air shows.

Well, w.r.t. the Vipers, at least one expert disagrees with you:

(translation above by Loke)

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Col. Charles Svensson has worked on the F-35 program since 2006.

I think in context with what he was saying, was in regards to top speed, not agility(hence the remark about M2.05.) You’re not gonna see that advantage displayed at an airshow.

Ups.. sorry, my bad:)
A rather small puny A2S missile if you ask me, the short range of the thing:(

The JSM’s range is >130nm, and that’s not the only weapon the F-35 can use for anti-shipping.