PAK-FA requirements are far higher than F-35/F-22. and it is built internal for development of Russian aviation industry and possilbe retaining export clients and global influence. for F-35 British has to pay with depreciated pounds and practically nothing to gain.

PAK FA’s biggest requirement is to approach F-22 capabilities, yet be affordable.
You’re dreaming if you think it’s gonna exceed the Raptor, being the first stealth fighter Russia has ever built.

Well, a quote from your fellow Russian comrade:

Just a paper speification? It´s much, much more real than the PAKFA 😮

As I said are you a comedian, comrade? :p

Your comments are so screwed they´re not to be taken seriously. In your mind I´m sure you think Russia is a great country and Putin a great leader 😀 -Geat real!

Face it. According to Star, no other companies have the capability to compete with Russian ones. There’s absolutely nothing you can say that is going to convince him otherwise.

The F-18E won`t beat in agility or performance the J-10, that already is a fact, the F-18E is not better in agility to the F-18C and the J-10 is in the class of the JAS-39NG or better in agility so you can expect a turn rate better than a F-16 or marginally better than a MiG-29.

So at any airspeed, the J-10 has an advantage? Remember- the F-18 has better low speed manuevering than the F-16, and considerably better high Alpha maneuvering. If you combine better instantaneous nose pointing, with JHMCS, and AIM-9X, it won’t matter if the J-10 has some advantages in agility.

And F-18E only has longer range missiles beyond that the aircraft is not match, since it is not faster, has not better performance and has not better agility and you forget China uses Su-30MKK with longer range AA-10s.

So while the F-18E is fighting at BVR Su-30MKKs it will be fight at WVR by J-10s

So what you’re saying is that if the J-10 and SU-30MKKs survive BVR against superior missiles, then they have some advantages in WVR, and then only against a poorly flown Super Hornet.

With external stores, the F-35 is going to be swatted out of the sky even by larger 4+ generation fighters who can simply carry larger ECM systems and longer-range missiles.

Once the SEAD/DEAD missions are complete, their RCS will be of less concern, as they won’t have a ground or air threat to deal with.

The range at which the S-400 can see the F-35/F-22 will vary depending on which battery you are talking about. In a real conflict, there will be not one, but many batteries, and they will be scanning from different positions. Same with smaller systems. The moment the S-400 gets even a small return from the incoming fighters, they will be able to focus long range EWRS systems on that area, and point fighters there too.

The ESM systems on the F35/22 will alert them where the S-400s are. Their low RCS will provide gaps in coverage, where they can operate. They will be able to fire stealthy weapons from outside the S-400’s detection range, which will in turn be detected with very little reaction time.

The S-500 is supposedly not just ABM, it’s an improved S-400 with an ABM capability that’s also improved.

Perhaps, but isn’t that a terrible waste of an asset, if it is indeed designed with that capability?

JSOW, JASSM are both subsonic, which means the range at which they are detected will matter less, since a system like TOR and Pantsyr will have little issues with disposing of the incoming threat.

And they’re also stealthy. I’m guessing TORs and Pantsyrs will be targets too.

“In 08 August 2007 it was reported that the Russian Air Force commander stated that Russia was developing a fifth-generation air defense missile system that is superior to S-400 Triumf complex and capable of hitting targets in space. “While working on the S-400, we have been developing a fifth-generation air defense system, which will be more compact, more maneuverable, and will certainly have superior technical characteristics,” Colonel General Alexander Zelin said. According to Zelin, the new missile system will combine elements of air, missile and space defense, and will be developed by the Almaz-Antei air defense consortium. The Air Force commander said major enhancements would be made to the system’s electronic components. “The enhancement of electronics will allow the systems to see farther, higher and react quicker, which will significantly expand the range of their capabilities, including repelling strikes from space,” Zelin said.”

How many S-500 batteries are going to be deployed. Are they gonna be a tactical asset, or based around high value targets?

In turn rate the J-10 will beat any time the F-18E, also it has HMS and in radar technology it`s comparable to 1990s western technology and still will use the PL-12 which is basicly better than the average AIM-120A and B, the R-73 and the PL-9 are less capable true but the J-10 is more agile and in a head on encounter equal to the F-18E/AIM-9X combo

At this moment in time the F-18s Australia has are not a match and China is also working in air to air missiles of longer range.

Besides in performance the F-18E is inferior to the J-10 and with weapons still is a conventional aircraft in RCS, and F-18C won`t beat the J-10

So what you’re saying is that the J-10 has comparable avionics to an F-18C, and a less capable BVR weapon than the AIM-120C/D, and less capable WVR missile than the AIM-9X. What airspeed is the J-10 travelling when it’s outturning the Super Hornet(or is it able to do this at any airspeed?) What’s the AoA limitations of the J-10?

Fact is Superhornet is alot cheaper (Already developed product) so greater quantities can be purchased and externally weopons carriage give it more flexibility for standoff strikes which is the only way of surviving against 4th and 5th generations airdefence systems. as ground systems have both optically guided and superior power than what is carried in airborne system not to mention networking with real cables. and much easier to upgrade year after year than tearing apart aircraft everyyear which can become hanger queen.

The F-35 is perfectly capable of carrying external stores too, once they perform the SEAD/DEAD missions.

JSF will will be procured in limited quantities just like F-22 and with limited internal carriage it will have no effect on battfield as all its weopons will be intercepted. and in front of S-400 Stealth is irrelevant anyway (It is cleared for export so better prepare for S-500).

-What range can the S-400 see F-22/35s at exactly, since you’re so certain stealth is irrelevant.
-The primary weapons that the F-35 would use against the S-400 are stealthy(i.e. JSOW, JASSM), and what range can the S-400 spot them?
-The S-500 is an ABM system like the THAAD.

So now u have figure out China defense budget inaddition to Russia:rolleyes:. Try to look at China railway capex budget alone. it is shocking by Western standards.

So how many trillions of dollars are moving through the Russian and Chinese economy?

Flanker has the acceleration and climb rates to reach required height. its AAM will always be on the top.

Required height?:rolleyes:
Every Flanker will always be flying higher and faster than any potential foe is it? No other plane can accelerate or climb? You’re still ignoring missile performance(AAM vs. large SAM) or AAM vs. AAM.

MIG-31/Su-27/Tu-22/Su-24/A-50 are far bigger in numbers with bigger radar power and ranges than US assets. US has overall more assets that it can deploy to single theatre but Russian assest have longer legs, speed with longer range weopons that compensate for it. It is just there doctorine is different. They dont believe in using short range fighters like F-16/F-18 instead that job is more for Tu-22/Su-24 both naval and airforce. with dual role of Su-27SM.

What are the numbers of Foxhounds/Flankers/Backfires/Fencers/A-50s vs.
F-15C,E/F-16C/F-18C,D,E,F/F-22/B-1B/B-2/E-3? How many tankers does the RuAF have(it’s great to have long legs, but it sucks to have to land to refuel). The B-1B/F-15E is a much more potent combination than the TU-22/SU-24 could ever hope to be.

Why not admit that they can do what others cant do instead of making irreleveant excuses. SSJ has private investments fro alot of firms and that include Safran, thales and Alenia. These firms wont invest there own money unless they have confidence in Sukhoi. It is just supply of ready made parts project. Every thing is customized from engines, to avionics to specialized software teams for this project with several teams working in three countries.

Because that’s not the case. Others could assume more risk too, but they choose not to.