By then the 5th generation ones will be ready in Russia too. Moot point.
We shall see.
It can increase it, which is a whole different story as I am suggesting.
So can the methods to achieve the same goal, but with less useful tools. There’s always risk, but the point is to minimize it.
Try 210KM for the latest version.
Each new model will have improvements, and once the JDRADM comes online, that will set the standard.
Being only slightly lighter, but having less thrust and being smaller-winged than a Super Hornet the A sure won’t set any new records in combat configuration. B and C will be worse (+1500kg, the larger C-wing can’t offset that).
I expect – with comparable load (which would mean 2 drop tanks, 2 AMRAAM, 2 JDAM, plus the awkward pylons for the Super Hornet) – the F-35A to have about 33-40% larger combat radius than a F/A-18E, or about 550nm max. As soon as the F-35 uses external stores that advantage will drop to 15-20%.
The exact thrust on the JSF isn’t known, other than it’s in the 40,000lb+ class. The SH has ~44,000lb in current trim.
While anything is possible, I suspect the most likely scenarios would involve the Chinese vs. Taiwan/Coalition force, North Koreans vs. ROCAF/USAF, Iranians, Syrians vs Israel/USAF/Coalition force, and perhaps some sort of conflict with Pakistan and India.
Ferry range intern of the F-35A is quoted as 2225 km or 1200 nm, which does give a radius of action of ~500 nm to be optimistic.
The F-16A can do it with 3 ETs for shure, the Israelis did prove it in 1981.
When you do have better data, which are not outdated and receicled at different websites, you are free to post that. 😀http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bild:F-35_weapon_layout.jpg&filetimestamp=20080324113736
To enhance versatility, it does seems that stealth is limited to a few missions only or such load-out does not make much sense.
Of course if you have the first day of war surprise advantage, you can significantly attrit your opponent’s IADS, and kill their aircraft on the ground, not to mention take out their air bases. Once the threat level is down significantly, the JSF can operate in non-stealth mode, while Raptors handle A2A threats.
Exactly. Places you shouldn’t even be. And knowing renowned American bombing accuracy (not that the Russian ones are any better lately), no bomb size is going to save any civilians.
The number game is also fairly weak, whoever mentioned it – when was the last time you bombed 10 different terrorist hideouts in one mission?
Or 5?
It’s a violation of the laws of land warfare for those forces to use civilians(or the other sensitive areas), as shields, whether they’re uniformed or not. The fact remains that you have to be able to have the tools to fight the enemy wherever they are. We try to minimize the effects on civilians, but in a war, it’s impossible for all adverse effects to be removed. The point is that the best way to minimize the effects, is to beat one’s opponent as quickly as possible. SDBs have many other uses, other than bombing terrorist hideouts. There are many targets that don’t require a sledgehammer, when a scalpel will suffice. The ability to carry more bombs is a good thing, as it increases the per sortie efficiency.
You mean good for bombing places where you probably shouldn’t be? :rolleyes:
You mean like in places where one’s opponents are using civilians as shields, by putting their HQs and fighting positions next to neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, historically important sites, religious sites, etc…?:rolleyes:
Bigger is always better. Isn’t he the same joker that thinks the PAK-FA will be superior to the F-22 simply because Sukhoi says it’ll be bigger? 😉
Well Sukhoi, and the commanding General of the RuAF should know more about this than anyone else. If Putin confirms this, then the West is doomed.:D
It depends on the total area of the tank exposed to airflow.
Look up wetted area, you might learn something.
I understand what wetted area is(i.e. total surface area exposed to airflow/high speed air flowing around it). The question is how the internal fuel tanks factor into the equation(i.e. do they, and if so by how much?) What’s the drag penalty for pylons, external tanks, weapons, ECM/targeting pods?
You are correct about the GPS weapons being less weather dependent, but TV seekers with multi-mode capability (IR, etc) have now made TV weapons all weather.
Unless one of its modes includes something other than TV, Laser, or IR, it’s not all weather capable. If there’s heavy cloud cover/fog/other unfavorable conditions, those just aren’t going to be able to be reliably employed.
There are no GPS guided munitions. JDAMs, for example, are GPS assisted, using INS “guidance”. Incorporating GPS improves accuracy, but from what I understand they’d have PGM-level accuracy without the GPS capability. This is what makes the whole “GPS jammers make JDAMs irrelevant” argument a laugher.
I seem to recall a Russian GPS jammers being destroyed in Iraq, by JDAMs.:D
The small-diameter bomb? Sure I know what it is, and it’s got a great range for a glide weapon. For this same purpose, you could use a Kh-59MKE. Granted, it will demolish a hell of a lot more than the SDB.
You are correct about the GPS weapons being less weather dependent, but TV seekers with multi-mode capability (IR, etc) have now made TV weapons all weather.
You do understand the reasoning behind the small diameter bomb right? If lots of destruction is what is needed, then a 2000lb JDAM, 5000lb bunker buster, or Tomahawk would be used. If on the other hand, one wants the ability to carry more bombs to use against targets that don’t need that big of a punch(not hardened, accuracy of weapon is sufficient for destruction, limiting of collateral damage), it’s a huge advantage. If you don’t mind carrying fewer weapons per sortie, or collateral damage, then by all means use a bigger, less efficient weapon.
What? The F35 went to weight-watchers? LOL
According to the official LM site the aircraft still weights 29,300 lbs.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/products/f35/f-35specifications/f-35a-ctol-specifications.html
And you know what the trouble is? We are still 4 years from the introduction of the type from LPIR lines. Most probable, it is going higher.
There are other sources citing various other weights, and the aircraft is still in testing. It’s easier to stick with a generic weight than to keep updating the facts sheet.
Your argument is obvious. No need to write it more the 4 times.
But even if it does take off with less than maximum internal fuel (which cannot happen often of course) the 35 still must bear all the extra structure (weight) and skin (friction) of its empty tanks all the way.
A- why can’t it take off without a full fuel load often? It’ll be mission dependant as to how much fuel is carried.
B- exactly how much friction does an internal fuel tank make?
I seriously doubt M1,2 supercruise. Try 0,8… 0,81:diablo:
A- speculation, based not upon real world test results, but a dislike of the aircraft
B- an assumption of just how much drag the F-35 suffers from
C- other aircraft with less thrust, and external stores(albeit limited), have demonstrated supercruise at M1.3-1.5. Considering the fact that the USAF refers to >M 1.5, I don’t think that a lower number over M1 is a preposterous notion.
F-35 being less draggy that the F-15??? In what speeds M0,3???:confused:
Mind you a a combat-configured Typhoon does NOT contain drop tanks! Not during combat at least!
-again, an assumption of how draggy the F-35 is.
-combat configuration is how the Typhoon takes off, not what it jettisons. Ostensibly, in combat, it will be firing missiles/dropping bombs too, so that’s a little disengenuous.
As I asked wrightwing, did you ever wondered if internal carriage of extra fuel and weapons gave ANY advantage to a fighter, why not incorporated in earlier fighters?????? Like F-15s or F-16s.
Could it be that the overall advantages are less than the overall shortcomings? Sleep on that.
The advantages are lower RCS, and less drag with a combat load.
Ever heard of the Kh-31P?
That’s great if the aircraft carrying it to within it’s launch range isn’t shot down by AEGIS/CAP first, or if the Kh-31 isn’t shot down by the SM2,3, 6, RAM, or CIWS.