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  • in reply to: Britain considers JSF pullout #2465024
    wrightwing
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    That is GOOD. That means that the 35 can outmaneuver MiG-21s, and Su-22s.

    It also means that it is competitive with Gen 4.5 aircraft too, but with better avionics, and situational awareness.

    Stealth will always be better than no stealth, regardless of breakthroughs, all else being equal.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465042
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    That is Su-35 and even that is estimated figures. Su-27SM use salut FM engines.

    Flanker can do BVR and 3*1500kg weopons. Flanker can carry 6 *Mach3 200Km class antiship/Sead weopons. That is critical difference in high threat environment.

    The F-15E can carry AIM-120Ds, while also carrying a wide variety of A2G ordinance. The range figures I mentioned were from one of the Sukhoi brochures you’ve posted. The combat radius is in the 1500km range though.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465177
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    You’re not banned on Google, I suppose? ๐Ÿ˜€
    On a more serious note, I think you’re undestanding the basic economic terms wrongly.

    The Russian RTS index is one of the most volatile in the world because it is one of the most unrepresentative indexes in the world. Less than 8% of the Russian economic actors are present there, and not the most important (not all the state holdings, Rostech etc., not Gazprom, not Railroads, etc.). So when it plummets, it does not mean anything (same is true about its rise). It’s merely a indicator, and a weak one.

    “Fewer investors”: not true and they are not represented by the RTS. Russia had a direct investment record high in 2008, incl. foreign investment.

    “Devaluation of the rubel”: that’s totally wrong. Actually, they are struggling with a strenghtening of the ruble and a rise in wages with production level not catching up, which is constraining exports and provides for a steady inflation. They’d be actually very happy about the ruble devaluating a little.

    The inflation is increasing, true (12% this year) but is fuelled by increased budget spending, lack of control and monopolistic structures. Wages are indexed quite smartly and economically, in fact.

    And for all those who still write gibberish about the Russian economy “fuelled by petrodollars”: remember that the Russian budget is calculated with the oil price fixed at 60 USD a barrel and is therefore a very conservative budget. All the surplus is not directly re-invested in order to stem inflation and put into state currency and gold reserves. That’s the reason why the Russian state budget is one of the few in the world that can boast continual benefits and not deficits. As for the “petrodollars” clichรฉ, remember that industry & services account for 80% of the Russian economy and their growth is much more responsible for the rise of the current GDP as the energy sector.

    And let us stop this off-topical discussion.

    I felt it was pertinent based on the forecasted budget that had been mentioned, which was made prior to the latest turn of events. It remains to be seen how everything pans out, which is the gist of what I was saying.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465205
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    u fail to mention that less than 1% of Russian population participates in Stock market compared to 50 to 60% in Western countries. and 5.7% is real GDP growth rate. In dollar terms it is more like 20 to 25%.Despite World economic collapse. Russian reserves are still rising

    The Russian public is irrelevant with regards to the Russian business/economy though. It’s true that there are fewer investors, but that doesn’t change the reality that Russian companies/banks/etc… have to face, and the devaluation of the Rubel, slowing down of the economy, increased inflation.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465208
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    Longer range on internal fuel (4000km), New FBW, more powerful engines, superior acceleration due to less drag of single seat with less weight, widely spaced weopon stations, longer range supersonic weopons, newer IRST, longer range radar. Almost in all categories.

    The Su-27 doesn’t have a 4000km range with weapons, and the figures I’ve seen are 4500km ferry range(with drop tanks), and 3600km on internal fuel.
    I won’t argue that the Flanker is superior the the F-15E in ACM, but it doesn’t compare in the A2G role.

    in reply to: Britain considers JSF pullout #2465215
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    point taken about mirage III, we used them as well, I meant western aircraft are the preferable choice here. I’m not saying JSF is crap. it will replace F-16 well, but it won’t be a great air superioriy fighter. and the main point is lack of choice. there are no other western stealth aircraft available for sale(except F-22)

    Here’s the thing to remember- the number of AAMs is only limited when in stealth mode, and even then the JSF carries 6 in the A2A configuration.
    A stealthy aircraft with a high degree of situational awareness- AESA/ESM/IRST/Sensor fusion, and 6 AAMs(with a very high likelihood of first see, first shoot, first kill), can be a very effective A2A capability. If stealth is of less importance, their load of AAMs goes up to 12, and with an aircraft with greater performance than an F-16C.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465267
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    F-15E is not even in Su-27SM class let alone Su-34. Russia hasnt released specification of Su-34 capabilities.
    second Su-35 has flown.

    And exactly what are all the areas that the Su-27SM are superior to the F-15E in(i.e. range, payload, avionics, weapon systems, etc…?)

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465278
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    As the military budget skyrockets in Russia, you’ll see much more equipment purchased yearly.

    Russia is up to 92.78 billion in 2009. 25% increase over 2008.

    It will be interesting to see how close that figure is to the actual figure due to the economic situation that is affecting the global market-

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/600/42/371377.htm

    “Troubles in the U.S. financial sector have spilled over into Russian markets, hitting banking shares and stocks more broadly, and making it virtually impossible for highly leveraged companies to secure funds abroad to refinance debts.”

    “His comments came as VTB Bank Europe said Russian manufacturing shrank for a second month in September, the first back-to-back contraction since November 1998.

    Russia’s problems were accelerated by its war in Georgia, a slump in commodity prices and capital flight, which BNP Paribas has estimated at $57 billion in the period from Aug. 8 to Sept. 19.”

    ” The ruble, which fell against the dollar for a fifth straight day, may strengthen against the dollar-euro basket if the U.S. Senate endorses a modified version of the $700 billion bailout package, said Elisabeth Gruie, an emerging-markets strategist in London at BNP.

    But Kudrin said the ruble was unlikely to strengthen from current levels because speculative inflows would abate as oil prices fall, Interfax reported. “

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aHTfBvXQ1MTM&refer=europe

    “The global credit squeeze may shave 1 percentage point off Russian growth next year, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin said, meaning the economy may expand by as little as 5.7 percent.”

    “Russian consumer prices grew an annual 15 percent in August. Inflation may “slightly” exceed 12 percent by the end of the year, said Arkady Dvorkovich, an adviser to President Dmitry Medvedev.”

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2465308
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    The Su-34 has no western equivalent, is an F-111 with Su-27 capabilities, compared to any Chinese design still is far far more advanced, the JH-7 still is a 1980s design and the J-10 can be beaten by well armed MiG-29s or F-16s however the SU-34 as a bomber has no equivalent yet, besides Russia still has Tu-160s that China has not.
    In fact the Su-34 is three times more capable than the Su-24 and that is also the same compared to a JH-7
    the PAK FA will be a fighter very likely 10 or 15 years ahead of any thing Chinese, because Russia has already started building the machine and China has only shown artistic renditions without a company supporting them.

    Russia has built more than 2500 MiG-29s and Su-27s, China still is basicly replacing third generation aircraft.
    How many J-10s has built China? well less than the Russians have built Su-27s and MiG-29s since 1998

    How many PAK FAs, and Su-34s has Russia built exactly?

    wrightwing
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    Its a shame that a whole new generation of……people are listening to russian propaganda. how is russia saving Iran fro US imperialism by supplying them with arms? they have more than enough! If i put every press release from Moscow into a book, changed the names around and i’d have a new da vinci code!

    I suspect that this generation listening to Russian propaganda would be well served by reading Russian history from say 1917-1990, to see just how wonderful the good ole days were.

    in reply to: Stealth geometry #2466052
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    Here’s an explanation with regards to the geometry-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_technology
    “Planform alignment is also often used in stealth designs. Planform alignment involves using a small number of surface orientations in the shape of the structure. For example, on the F-22A Raptor, the leading edges of the wing and the tail surfaces are set at the same angle. Careful inspection shows that many small structures, such as the air intake bypass doors and the air refueling aperture, also use the same angles. The effect of planform alignment is to return a radar signal in a very specific direction away from the radar emitter rather than returning a diffuse signal detectable at many angles.”

    here’s a graphic representation-

    http://www.f-22raptor.com/st_fa22tricks.php

    this combined with using RAM and dielectric composites help keep the radar returns to a minimum.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2466487
    wrightwing
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    Well, they say love is blind.;)

    Especially when hard currency is involved.:cool:

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2466706
    wrightwing
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    Certain things u have to agree. Like computing power and radar performance. Stealth against 70 to 90s radars is practically obsolete against Radars built in 21st century. So PAK-FA naturally has take this into account. like S-500 class radars.
    Second precision manufacturing capabilities are way different now.third composite materials. Russia is now spending $3B and 10,000 people to manufacture 21st century composites. Only Japanese had done untill now. PAK-FA is more than 50% by weight composites.

    Radars have gotten better, but you still have to deal with power, antenna size/gain, frequency/band, PRF(low, med, high), etc… in the 21st century. The principles of stealth haven’t changed though- absorbing radar energy, directing energy not absorbed away from emitter.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2466812
    wrightwing
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    While I cannot say that I agree with what star49 has to say, I find it very amusing how the Raptor crowd is freaking out after the other side uses exactly the same arguments Raptor fanboys, too, regularly use to defend their precious flying wonder. Having pretty much fun this time, guys, please keep it up! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I think the point is that nobody knows exactly what the capabilities of the F-22 are(including Sukhoi), so to say matter of factly that another aircraft is superior, is perhaps premature. I have no doubt that the PAK-FA will be an excellent aircraft, but this will be the first production stealth aircraft, Russia has built. I have serious reservations about them surpassing designs based on 30+yrs of experience, on the first attempt. Additionally, Russian avionics while good, are still lagging behind the latest western designs. I suspect the biggest advantage that the PAK-FA will have, will be the price.

    in reply to: Britain considers JSF pullout #2466850
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    If you can down a JSF it just means it’s all the more easier to down a Typhoon or Rafale, etc.

    That’s exactly right. If an air defense system is effective against the JSF, you’re gonna need something with ever lower RCS, or a significant amount of EW support.

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