And while the Indians buys the MKI, the Russians will be buying 5th gen fighters and the Su-35, and Su-34. That is far superior overall to anything India will have till they get their FGFA.

And the Indians will also be getting PAK FA, Mig-29Ks, as well as MRCA, etc..to go along with those 272 MKIs(which will be not too dissimilar to Su-35s with their upgraded avionics) , so in terms of total numbers of modern combat aircraft, the IAF has done a better job at keeping its fleet on the cutting edge.

I think there’s a lot of confusion in this thread about top speed. Most people saying the Osprey can go over 300 knots are looking at speeds at altitude, as opposed to sea level. The V-22 has a top speed of 250 knots at sea level, that’s from the Boeing website. However once you start getting up to high altitudes where the air is thinner, figures start getting up to 300+ knots.

And that’s it’s key advantage over any helicopter, of being able to get up and cruise at high altitudes, at fixed wing aircraft speeds.

The Osprey’s max speed is over 500km/h.

The thing to consider though is that the max speed of the X-2 is 100 knots slower than the Osprey(which cruises at the X-2’s max.)

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Yes, the ones they’ve had for.. a couple years…

So Troll= I don’t like what I’m hearing, but can’t refute the information, so I’ll refer to name calling. I’ll be happy to change my stance if you can provide just a single shred of evidence supporting your assertion. Until those RuAF Su-27s get at least a PESA array, they’re simply not going to be in the same class. Once the Su-35s enter service, then the RuAF will have the best Flankers again, but not till such time. Even then, the IAF will have ~272 MKIs vs. whatever number of -35s get bought.

well, if the MKI upgrade goes as planned, then it’ll have stuff from the Su-35 and maybe even Pak-fa, and the SM again will be inferior to both the 35 and MKI.

Indeed, and didn’t the IAF also order quite a few more MKIs, if memory serves me?

It’s almost certainly an upgraded R-37

Why almost certainly an upgraded R-37?

None of that went out the window at all. Failed attempt to prove anything from you. Except for a very brief period of time when India, arguably Russia’s biggest arms importer, got the Su-30MKI. Shortly after, the Su-27SM came into existence.

So I’m sure you’d be happy to give the numbers of Flankers(compared with the number of MKIs in India, or other advanced variants on the export market), Fulcrums, and Foxhounds, etc… that have been kept at the state of the art, in terms of avionics upgrades vs. still using the kit from the 90s. I also wonder if you’d be so kind to explain why there’s such an emphasis on modernization currently, if that’s been going on all along.

Would you? Bla bla. :rolleyes:

That’s not my job. You’re the one that made the claim. You’re using a logical fallacy of asking me to disprove a negative.