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  • in reply to: Upgrades for the F/A-18E/F – Farnborough #2385034
    wrightwing
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    Well if they’re already operating them that’s one thing, but the kind of retrofits that had been mentioned, with internal sensors isn’t something that can be readily done. That’d require quite a bit of modifications, if the jets weren’t shipped that way from the factory.

    in reply to: Upgrades for the F/A-18E/F – Farnborough #2385045
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    And I’m not sure about a real big IRST. Only if the gun is dropped. But for a distributed sensor array like the F-35’s EODAS there should be volume. In the end there’s nothing that keeps legacy types from getting the same avionic as the F-35.

    Except money. Who’s going to spend that kind of money on legacy platforms, when they can get a new platform at similar cost?

    in reply to: underestimating U.S. air power. #2385074
    wrightwing
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    Ok, sounds more reasonable, it takes more then glide speed to get trough the point defence of a Neustrashimy frigate, or worse.

    Just out of curiosity, what do you imagine the glide speed of a GBU-39/40 to be, especially considering that they can glide >60nm from a subsonic launch.

    in reply to: underestimating U.S. air power. #2385102
    wrightwing
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    Do you think that the explosion after penetrating the shelter, and taking the aircraft out, is one that a relatively unarmored structure/vehicle, would fare well against from 5m?

    http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/missiles/sdb/index.html

    GBU-39/B Weapon: multipurpose, insensitive munition, penetrating, blast-fragmentation warhead for stationary targets; equipped with deployable wings for extended standoff range
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    Dimensions: (L x W): 70.8″ x 7.5″ (1.8 m x 19 cm)
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    Weapon Weight: 285 pounds (130 kg)
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    Warhead: 206 lb (93 kg) penetrating blast fragmentation
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    Warhead penetration: >3 feet of steel reinforced concrete
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    Fuze: electronic safe/arm fuze (ESAF) cockpit selectable functions, including air burst and delayed burst options
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    Standoff maximum range: more than 60 nautical miles

    in reply to: underestimating U.S. air power. #2385157
    wrightwing
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    Most people here are aviation fans. If they were army fans or more related to the army anyway, they would have abbandoned any hope that a 17 kg warhead produces only that small explosion.

    Only an armoured vehicle could possibly survive a 17 kgr detonation at 8m.

    Agreed. I’ve seen an SUV size vehicle blown 20-30′ and completely mangled, from ~17kg of explosives.

    in reply to: underestimating U.S. air power. #2385161
    wrightwing
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    It get’s a bit boring to hear these fantasies of bombs replacing missiles, primarily ARM’s as the main SAM hunter in the long run…

    They’ll be augmenting, not replacing. It does give the SAM commander a variety of threats to consider though, and shutting down the emitter won’t stop an SDB, JSOW, JASSM. ARMs are more defensive in nature, whereas the others are used more in the offense mode.

    in reply to: underestimating U.S. air power. #2385185
    wrightwing
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    I’m commenting the film posted, specifically GBU-39.
    The point is the second truck, 10-15m away, wasn’t even scratched and in case the shot misses into the ground (even better blast dampener), it’s very unlikely that the SAM’s missile, or radar (on top of a mast, or some other elevated element) will be sufficiently damaged to cease operation.

    “Naked” soldiers are something else and one might easily get killed by pressure alone, even if missed by splinters.

    Area bombing is still within medium/heavy JSOW’s domain and it’s much more likely be used in that role.

    There are different types of warheads for SDBs though-

    http://www.futurefirepower.com/small-diameter-bomb-gbu-39

    Not only does the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb limit itโ€™s size to only 250 lbs, it also can be fitted with different types of warheads, one of which is specially designed to limit the blast radius and shockwave of the explosion.

    When going after a SAM site, that’s not necessarily in an area where collateral damage is an issue, a different warhead type could be chosen.

    JSOWs will also be heavily utilized, as you said.

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2385196
    wrightwing
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    It was not done over Kosovo, it was done over Serbia. The careless behavior about known details speaks volumes. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    You’re absolutely right. The lesson learned isn’t the important thing, so much as the pedantics.

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2385200
    wrightwing
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    Which countries have been able to afford these integrated air defense networks consisting of overlapping redundant sensor and missile coverage, and close in systems to protect against ARMs/SDBs? Given an unlimited defense budget, one could certainly build up a pretty formidable defense, but I’m just not seeing any nation(to include Russia or China) having an impenetrable network though(especially considering the amount of land mass that they have to cover). You could have certain areas that are very heavily defended, but there aren’t enough missiles to cover every square inch.
    I’m sure it’s probably occurred to you, that these challenges have also occurred to the USAF. That’s why it’s a very methodical process when taking out a air defense network, using a variety of systems, platforms, and weapons. I take modern SAMs very seriously, but I think that you seriously underestimate the challege of dealing with hundreds of stealthy strikers(that are networked) and munitions, while in a heavy jamming environment.

    in reply to: If the Treasury really got their way…. #2385213
    wrightwing
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    Man i’m surprised to hear UK only aim for 160 EF, i always thought of England as a well armed country, overly armed even.

    When you add the 100+ F-35s, that’s not too shabby a force though.

    in reply to: If the Treasury really got their way…. #2385224
    wrightwing
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    What’s ‘lawful access’?

    Countries with resources which they wish to sell won’t prevent access. They need the things selling those resources can buy. Libya, Saudi Arabia, & the UAE. for example, would starve – & I don’t mean metaphorically – if they stopped selling oil.

    The only countries which might, if they controlled a resource, seek to stop anyone else buying it, are consumers. China, India, Japan, W. Europe, etc.

    Lawful access means that the country that has the resources is wanting to do trade with you. It was a competitive consumer that I was referring to, in terms of prohibiting access.

    in reply to: If the Treasury really got their way…. #2385652
    wrightwing
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    And in the process expend more resources than you can ever hope to gain in the bargain? First the diplomatic clout excuse and now this. There’s no point preparing for another Iraq and Afghanistan.

    I’m not referring to Iraq and Afghanistan, so I’m not really sure why you’re fixed on them. Diplomacy is only effective, if you have the means to enforce it. Without leverage, you’re never going to be able to look after your national interests properly.

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2385675
    wrightwing
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    You also have to look at the huge improvements in situational awareness that the F-22 and F-35 will enjoy over an F-117, not to mention raw performance, and countermeasures.

    in reply to: If the Treasury really got their way…. #2385789
    wrightwing
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    The UK and its allies are not threatened by any nation of any importance and will not be for a very long time. Any dispute over resources can and should be dealt with by negotiation through the market place not by military action. The very idea of Britain going to war against another nation when that nation’s only ‘crime’ is to sit on top of a natural goldmine of its natural resources is abbhorent. We are no longer in the 19th century.

    Regards

    The point isn’t to use military force to take resources from a nation. It’s to ensure that no other nation prevents your nation from having lawful access to those resources, due to their own militaristic intervention.

    in reply to: underestimating U.S. air power. #2385793
    wrightwing
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    WW, HARM has a warhead of 68kg and travels at average speed of over M1 and such a projectile had (immense) troubles destroying radars in ’99.
    How does then a bomb flying 1/5th of that speed and having 17kg! warhead (GBU-39), will do better?

    The SDB won’t be travelling at 1/5th the speed first of all, and the HARM’s warhead wasn’t the issue. Once the SAM site stopped emitting, there’s no telling how close the missiles were hitting. As for the blast effects of the SDB-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VplddV722wo

    It has a 26 foot blast radius(so 5-8 meters would certainly fall inside that envelope).

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