Really? Like what, for example?

C2 nodes in and around Baghdad, etc…, which had greater numbers of SAMs/AAA defending.

has every one forgotten about awacs etc ?

Even the RuAF has pretty limited AWACs assets compared with US/NATO forces, much less a smaller, less capable air force.

I’ll agree that no missile is good at long range/low altitude, but the AMRAAM is a 40g+ missile.

During testing , Rafale reached 100 degrees AOA without loss of control .

There’s a big difference between instantaneous and sustained AoA. The F-35 can sustain 55deg. The Rafale can’t.

I say again , try to drop a SDB at 2000ft and lets see what the range is :diablo: (3km or so , what a feast !)

Why would an F-35 want to get down in the weeds, and have to deal with AAA/Manpads, etc…?

JDAM has a 25km range from high altitude launch , AASM about 55km .

You may want to recheck your figures about the JDAM’s range- The ER kits extend JDAM range out to 35-50nm, from high altitude. The SDB models have ranges of 60-80+nm at high altitude.

The photos of the F-35 did not show an angle where you could clearly see it’s nozzle. The exposed portions of the nozzle(s) are roughly the same between the two aircraft when viewed from above and below.

Or in otherwords, the F-35’s design more effectively shields the nozzle from most angles.

So anything can be stealth if i just throw ram on it?
I wonder if I stick my rear end in the air flow and ram coat it will it still be stealthy?

The plume would be detectable.:cool:

That’s an extremely cheap statement, sorry. Let me remind you that F-22 doesn’t even have HMD and you would not dare to call its pilot as being *unaware of the situation*.

This is an area where the F-35 is superior to the F-22. This is why the F-22’s are being upgraded, so that it’s MLDs can function in a similar manner, albeit without the imagery projected on the pilot’s visor.

Incomparable to the understatements you provide when you compare competitors to the F-35. All current 4+ aircraft feature MMI with greatly reduced pilot workload and choosing and shooting down targets is easy even without the see-through-airframe function.

There are different levels of MMI though, which is the point I’m getting at, and the F-35’s solution to pilot situational awareness is currently the best. If the competitors want to invest the money for equivalent systems, then they too could be upgraded. That’s all hypothetical though.

If everything is going to be bvr and the systems eliminate the need for the pilot to be using the mk1 why is it so important to be looking outside the cockpit?
No contradiction there at all….:rolleyes:

The DAS isn’t just for A2A. It allows you to have simultaneous A2A/A2G situational awareness in a 360×360 bubble around the aircraft, without having to look down into the cockpit for timely information, that could alert you to a threat,(or allow you to engage a target of opportunity). Automatic tracking of enemy and friendly platforms, also helps prevent fratricide.