Aah, I see. Well, yes, as an Alouette-replacement the A-109 would do just fine. But don’t worry about the cabin space of the two new frigates: they will have a hangar big enough to accomodate the NH90.
Well, the pro and the contra of the NH90 have been discussed before. The Seaking is/was bigger. But apart from the Herald-disaster they where never used again for such a big rescue-ops (and thus have a cabin space which is a little bit too big). The Dutch use AB412’s for the same job with a bigger coastline. The NH90 will do just fine. They only should have bought some more.
No, the C-17 is way too big for an airforce like ours. A tactical aircraft like this is not usefull at all. On the other hand they should have joined the NATO C-17-squadron idea (as with the AWACS). I know the A400 has been delayed but that’s for all the airforces involved. And yes: the C-130 are getting old. Very old…
As for the VIP-aircraft: they shouldn’t buy any more but use commecial companies instead. The money they save that way could be invested in better and/or more stuff (or lighter tactical airlift airplanes).
I don’t think there was a competition for the NH90 or the A400 (but I’m not sure of that).
Frank,
Let’s stay realistic: C-17… Come on… As for the navalized A-109… To replace Seakings??? The NH90 will do just fine. They should only buy more than the 8 (at least take up the option -> 2). I don’t know how the Dutch manage to have such a nice Airforce (AH-64, Cougar, Chinook, Lynx, …).
For all the readers,
We should all have a broader view of what happens in Europe and the world to understand why and where countries buy their stuff.
How do you see the Belgian Airforce evolve? Try to make a REALISTIC OrBat for it.
Greetz,
Dimitri
No, no, no… Wrong again. We are talking about Belgium. We don’t prepare for war. We never do: not in 1914, not in 1940, not now. And why would have to prepare for war when there is no potential enemy (Eastern Block is gone). And you don’t need JSF or Rafale to defend yourself against terrorism (new “enemy”). And even then: we don’t have a budget for such expensive airplanes anymore. A Gripen will do, just as the NH90 will do (and not the so much beloved Merlin, for most of you).
Dimitri
Money, money, money, Always money… Well, they could use the money they will get from Jordan for the selling of surplus F-16’s. And with the rest of the money they could buy some more choppers.
Greetings from Kabul, today’s hotspot.
Dimitry
I guess so. When I see the crews, they are all old experienced pilots. None looks younger than 35 (even older to me).
Belgium uses the A-109 agusta, right??
Yes, unfortunately… It is a good helicopter for liaison-flights and as a training aircraft, but for scouting, anti-tank, medevac, … This was surely a political descision and no military. It cannot even lift half the weight it is supposed to. But hey, what do you gonna do about it 😉
As stated above, you need an air defence force to defend your airspace (and that from other nations such as Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia or even Slovenja). But I don’t think the Belgian Air Component would need a JSF for that mission. Why would we need such a hightech aircraft? Opting for a well-equiped Grippen is a better choice. It can be armed as the F-16 they used f.e. in Afghanistan (two AAM, two LGB, extra fueltanks). When will we bomb anything again. Even over Kosovo we never dropped much more than two bombs at the same time. A Grippen is a good aircraft for ADF and small interdictions. Just what we need. Eurofighter? Too big. Rafale? Too big.
They should in stead buy more transport-aircraft. Say 12 in stead of 7 A-400. And some smaller tactical transport like the C-27 or C-295 to fill the gap left by the HS-748. Plus more helicopters. I still don’t understand how our neighbour can procure Apaches (not just one), Chinooks (more than one too), Cougars plus owning Lynx and whatsoever and we have to work with A-109 and the future 10 NH90 (only ten!!! Makes me laugh).
To answer question one and four (canards on Mirage2000 would look better + refuelingprobe): I don’t think aircraft are only designed to look good. And for the refuelingprobes –> I suppose it was a cost-effective way of adding these. I know it’s ugly but then again: aircraft aren’t always made to be beauties.
Greetz,
Dimitri
I’ll take my own country Belgium. And I’ll try to stay as reasonable as possible.
Air Component:
48 to 60 Saab Grippen to replace the F-16’s.
8 A400 (one more than the actual order)
4 CN-295 tactical airlift
1 extra Airbus A310 (or other)
10 extra NH90 (purely Troop Transport)
15 EC135/145 light utility helicopters (Training and liaison)
15 Tiger combat helicopters to replace the A109 in the ATk-role (which was a ridiculous choice)
Last large scale para-drop happened in Iraq (North) to retake an airfield. In 1978, belgian paratroopers were droppen Congo/Zaïre.
Greetz,
Dimitri
Well, every now and then, a US civilian registered aircraft lands here in Kabul. Mostly a CASA 212, now this one. Other civilian aircraft park here too on the military appron (for deployments or reappro-flights) but as I’m not that interested in civilian aircraft, I don’t take pics of them exept when they are really exotic (like the Metro).
I will try to take some pics of a UK C-17 and the Tristar that comes here from time to time. Also saw a Dutch KDC-10 this week but didn’ have my camera on hand.
Hi everyone,
I spoke to one of the technicians working on the Canberra. He told me they had three operational Canberra’s left. And indeed, the markings next to the cockpit are missionmarkings from Iraq. They represent the different scud-missiles/sites they discovered.
Greetz,
Dimitri
Tuesday pictures
Some more:
Some more pics
Some more pics yaken this morning:
As soon as i’m completely settled, I will start taking pics on a (if possible for the job) daily base. Sorry for the Canberra-pics but I didn’t have my camera with me at that moment.
You will all hear of me soon !!!
Greetz,
Dimitri (dimitri.hackx@hotmail.com)