You are referring to the infamous Eagle Claw operation. Google it.
What is best known is the aftermath of the operation.
US was humiliated.
President Carter lost the upcoming elections to a failed actor Ronald Raygun.
Most analysts agree that this happened mainly because of the failure of the operation.
President Raygun escalated the cold war in a form of enhanced military and space funding to lead the Soviet Union to bankruptcy within a few years.
Chaos is such a bitch.
check this also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YOtm9UCQEc
Mein Gott !!!!!:cool:
it is not prob Horse hores even whore:dev2:
the matter is C-130…..ok????????:rolleyes:
IICR in 1982, English SAS had proposed to the cheif of stuff, that English C-130s, painted with Argentinian markings and filled with SAS commandos, could land on Port Stanley’s airport, surprise the local garrison, and take over the airport!
Although the operation was disallowed as too risky, it is an excellent example of a modern trojan horse.
Does anybody know more of this?
BTW why did you named the thread: Trojan Hores?
I too would like a Trojan hore, please! 🙂
How is the after sales support btw?
Do you mean Trojan horSe?
Just a quick question to Pundits:
We know that SU-30K had F-15/F16 for lunch and dinner in cope India 04.
Here we have SU-30 MKI with TVC and canards and still it lost in 1V1?, does this making a dis-advantage rather than advantage??
Were china right in its procurement of basic design and not going for fancy stuff?
Are Russians already found the uselessness of Canards??
Flex297, Arthur, Corbato where are you guys…..
The answer to your question is already given.
Neither canards nor TVC fly the aircraft.
Some pictures from the arrival.
http://www.ar.admin.ch/internet/armasuisse/de/home/aktuell/evaluation_tte/eurofighter/fotos/ankunft_eurofighter.html
http://www.kriensnet.ch/videos/EADS_Eurofighter_061108.wmv
A video from the arrival.
File size is about 100MB
Well, you know what they say…………..beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
That said, to be fair both are equally “HOT”!:diablo:
If the SH is a He the rafale is a she.
Nice couple.
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LordAssap I really want to answer to you, but as you can see my computer cannot “READ” your posts. Seem to be VLO ones.:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
# The F-22 might need have their lateral missile bays changed to accommodate four of the small winged AIM-9X instead of two legacy big-wing AIM-9s.
Why not the ASRAAMs?
Only because they are not american?
sorry I was not clear enough, I meant the rafale airframe exept the nose. Surfaces on the side of the aircrat are not orientated vertically (cf picture n°2). It is not angular like on the F22 or the F117 but more in line with UCAV with more “rounded” shape to meddle as much as possible the wings with the main body. Transition between the wings and the fuselage is smooth on the rafale.
The difference of the junction of the wing with between the fuselage the rafale A and rafale C (pics n°3 my previous post on that subject) is pretty straightforward. This modification has been done fore stealth reasons.
There was a special issue of A&C which detailed the modification between the demonstretor and regular rafales. They mention this modification we are talking about for stealth reasons. That was my point, and I was thinking about that document to expalin the RCS reduction measures to show that theese measures were implemented early in the design stage.
Agreed.
And I must admit that the efforts of the French to lower the EM return of the aircraft are laudable.
The problem is that it was never completed.The rafale still has a quite large RCS, as proved by the DACT in which it gets involved into.
IMHO the French kicked a fine opportunity to build an actual 5th generation fighter that can counter the F-35, in sales and in combat.
Over G
-In fact the rafale has a kind of V shaped fuselage to reduce its RCS (picture 1)
The shape of the fuselage is not V, or at least not a stealth oriented V.
It was designated by the placement of the intakes-canards.
If stealth was intended then the rafale should have a fuselage shape close to this:
You should think again, the leading egde from wing and canard are highly sweeped!
Indeed, but there are still quite a few sources of specular reflection even from direct head-on.
Anyway, I suppose that if the French incorporated this feature, then they reckon it as useful.
Well how do you know the effectivity of the radar absorbing material in the centimetric wavelength range just by eye ?
Which radar absorbing material?
Are the leading edges of the wings and canards, and also the nose, covered by RAM?
over-G
the only purpose of saw tooth is stealth. I had the confirmation from two rafale pilots three weeks ago in paris. The rafale B301 was displayed at “place de la concorde” for the celebration of one century of french aeronautics as well as many other aircrafts. I posted a personal picture of this event on this thread.
True.
The question IMHO is how effective this feature is.
No dought these teeth, difuse creeping EM waves and reduce radar return.
But is this effect in the same order of magnitude as the main source of reflecting energy, which comes from specular reflection?
Leading surfaces of the Rafale still produce a lot of specular reflection
Finally some good news!
Do we have any indication about how many Rafales are going to be equipped or retrofitted with the AESA?
The similar declarations from Russia, France, and Boeing are also the official claims of the manufacturers, but what are the evidence and basis for such official declaration. Has any manufacturer provided the evidence that its IRST can do the tracking, identifying, and range measuring works almost as good as modern fighter’s radars ??
evidence to whom? You and me?
This information is never published BUT might be accessed by classified officers involved into military purchase programs.
If company X makes a bold declaration like this, now, the customer has chance to ask for a proof. The customer not the public.
And this proof MAY (I say may) lie into DACT exercises with L/O aircraft already flying. At least this is what I would ask.