I am here to INFORM people ….
You are here to enforce your biased opinion using half-true arguments, and insults.
I am sorry to say it but you only manage to cause demerit for your favorite aircraft and humiliate the French people.
Do you think US companies are going to be able to sell anti-stealth technology to Russia or China? :rolleyes:
You are joking now right?
If the money is right………
Anyway, and seriously NO, mainly because your central government can block that.
But there WILL be others.
Not every country can afford to do that though. Russia, among other nations seems to think it’s an important capability. Low RCS is always gonna be better than high RCS, no matter what an enemy has been doing to upgrade. It still means that it’ll take them longer to detect you(if you fly within their detection range at all). Remember- part of the situational awareness advantages on the F-22/35, is knowing the threat detection radii, which allows them to plan flight paths exploiting this.
Dont think of countries.
Think companies. Companies that need to survive, offering better products.
Even from the US…
Why is having a larger number of very capable aircraft a bad thing? That just creates a greater number of problems for an enemy air defense/Air Force.
Because if half the world obtains a fighter that survives by hiding from radars, the other half, will put its butt down and find a way* to reveal it.
That simple.
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*Or a combination of ways it doesn’t matter.
Not at all. All these “technologies” that would counter F-35s, would also counter PAK FAs, if you honestly believe that having a low RCS is useless.
a. I dont believe low RCS is useless
b. PAK FA is still under development. The only thing I ve seen are some (not even good) 3d renditions.
c. The F-22 shows the way. (in use of stealth)
d. and most important!! The major problem with the F35 is NOT its compromised design, or its small internal carriage, or its first day of the war concept, but the huge numbers it is going to be produced 😉
US should keep stealth technology in very few numbers.
So I suppose there’s no reason for the PAK FA either then eh?:cool:
PAK FA???
Is this a joke?
Point is that by the time the F35 will get into service (post 2015) there will be so many counter-F35 solutions that there will be no point in entering service…
Just on pylons 3/11 meaning the inner middle pair under the wings.
There was a report in a Italian forum, that Taurus carriage was somehow problematic because of low frequency vibrations.
Anyone else heard something about that?
The usual low level flying is that all you got?
Please get yourself INFORMED before replying.
I was trying to prove that my imagination is just as vivid as yours 😉
I gues you dont know your Yaw from you Pitch and Roll axis.
Try the airclub nearest to your home they got basic aerodynamics books for you.
Funny you say so…
In fact I did that almost 18 years ago…..
The REAL answer is the resulting capability in retaining a high level of control in combat situations but you wouldn’t know about it considering you cant make the distinction between A and B and you try to talk about Z.
If combat situation is flying at 180 knots surrounded by HOBS ……then I rest my case:diablo::diablo::diablo:
Just try someone your size boy, you’re waisting forum space. Bye.;)
I guess my question about the rafale making a vector velocity roll, really hurts.
right?
😎
YEP.
READ: 5th Generation Core system architecture.
Only Mirage 2000 Mk2/9, F-22 and F-35 have the SAME architecture.
You forgot spaceship enterprise…:D
It could if its FCS was programmed for the use of the rudder the way that of Typhoon is but Rafale is a LOT more stable in the YAW axis due to the way its rudder is fed with energised airflow, no need to use it it will stay stable at high AoA.
So in a real combat situation (NOT AN AIRSHOW ONE, THAT IS) in order to change direction when already turning on the other pulling say 7g, does it need to unload first?
I guess it does.
Can Typhoon be flown at passed 100* AoA and 40kt NEGATIVE speed while retaining FULL control authority?
IS TYPHON DEPARTURE AND SUPERSTALL RESISTANT? Answer is NO, Rafale IS.
CAN TYPHOON PERFORM THE HERBST MANEUVRES? NO RAFALE DOES.
The quick answer is no, as the FCS will not allow the aircraft to find itself in such condition. AFAIK, the EF has never been tested beyond 30o AoA.
The real answer is, all the above are purely airshow stands, and of negligible real life use.
pls erase
FACT is Typhoon systems are 4th Generfation, Rafale’s 5th Generation.
pardon???
Roll rates are VERY relevant as the USAF flkight test pikloits working for NASA determined it is part of the most important pahse of air combat; starting and stoping rolls accurately. Then pull Gs.
Just a question here.
Can the Rafale perform a vector velocity roll?
The EF can, and seams to be VERY useful.
speculations from a leftist newspaper!
“the french gov COULD only procure 50 rafales ” not “will procure”,
Liberation is used to deal this kind of “suspition” each week about french military procurements..
Ok my bad french…:cool:
BUT
It is not the first time we hear something about this.
And the actual movements (or should I write standstill) of the French governments, over the past years do imply something close to this.
EDIT
Besides that the article seemed very precise in production and delivery rates.
GlobalPress?
And in english?
Bad news for the Rafale…
The French government decided to procure only 50 planes (fifty:eek:) during the next 6 years. That means 8 pieces per year !!!! The decision leaves an open door to increase the production rate to 11 per year if there is a major export deal.
Currently there are talks for export 60 pieces to UAE and 14 to Libya, but if these happens the delivery rate to the French armed forces, will diminish.
This decision brought tension among the Armee de l air and the French navy as the navy needs at least 30 airplanes and the air force expects to replace the fighters with the rafale.