Su-24.
other examples of potential “copies”
Il-76 & C-141
Tu-160 & B-1A
China’s J10 reminds me of Typhoon….
The problem is “ground-pounders” just aren’t “sexy”.
In Europe, the only modern purpose-built CAS aircraft, the AMX, is a good example. How many other NATO nations bought AMX? nil.
In the UK, the RAF is pushing ahead with Eurofighter, but MoD has retired Jaguar early. Which is more suited to CAS?
I know Typhoon’s air-ground abilities are being expanded, but Typhoon was not designed as a CAS platform. It is pretty obvious Typhoon was designed as an air-superiority fighter. It is only because IOC is nearly 20 years after Typhoon came off the drawing board & the world has changed that A/G capability is being added.
Arguably, the RAF needs more C-17s & maybe C-130Js than it needs Typhoons.
Actually, I love potatoes. 😀
It’s the QUANGO in charge of them that sucks. 🙁
The only way to spend more on defence is to pay more tax.
NO 😡
What is important is the proportion of the national expenditure/GNP is spent on defence.
The UK can afford to spend much more on defence.
The UK spends c. £124 billion annually on QUANGOs like:
The British Potato Council
The Milk Development Council
The Home Grown Cereals Authority
Pig Production Development centre
Coal Authority
etc.
Need I continue?
Higher taxes are NOT the answer. It is how you spend the revenue. The present British government is keen to engage in wars, but reluctant to pay for the military who fight them.
I recall seeing plans for a stretched OHP derivative – I think it was a planned version for Taiwan, with heavier armament.
If this had come to fruition, I think it would have rejuvenated the OHP & increased the potential for further sales.
In terms of cost/effectiveness, how do people rate the modular MEKO ships?
I think the F-16XL was a seriously cool aircraft. 😎
It’s a pity it wasn’t further developed. I guess having two engines can be a big advantage over enemy territory 😀
I seem to remember reading that the F-16XL was capable/almost capable of supercruise. Is that correct?
If it was available today (suitably updated), I think there would probably be some commercial potential in the old girl yet.
I agree that Japan should have chosen the F-16XL as the basis of its FS-X programme, all those years ago.
I know MoD does NOT usually “think out of the box”, but what about the HAL Dhruv with the uprated Shakti engines for use in hot & high conditions (Afghanistan +/- Iraq)?
The Dhruv was specifically developed for use in high-altitude settings, where some other choppers are less comfortable.
I’ll bet the Dhruv is a lot cheaper than the other options above. VfM for UK taxpayers – a novelty!
If the Dhruv is good enough for India & Israel, I think it is worthy of consideration.
Sorry luisdo,
I re-read your original post & just realised you were only asking the ID of the 1st boat. 😮
Sorry!
The 2nd boat looks like an Osa class fast attack craft (FAC) – maybe an Osa-II.
Osa-IIs were armed with SSN-2c Styx SSMs.
Are you sure they are aerials? They would make damn good fishing rods! 😀
How about JASDF F-4EJ Kai?
Have they had Japanese electronics/upgrades/weapons?
Amazing that such an old aircraft is still in frontline sevice!
Phantoms forever! 😀
Who operates the most advanced F-1s today?
F-1E was the last model AFAIK, but I think I read FAF still uses F-1C – upgraded?
Interesting that the FAF still uses F-1 despite Mirage 2000 & build-up of rafale fleet.
Blimey.
Surely there’s no real comparison, apart from export sales success?
The F-5 was from inception a relatively simple, lightweight, low-cost fighter aimed at US client states who needed, well, a low-cost fighter. Small radar, short-range AAMs only.
The Mirage F-1 was designed to be a frontline NATO fighter/fighter-bomber with FAF & NATO allies & then also the export market. The F-1 had a “powerful” radar & was intended to carry BVR AAMs from the outset.
The F-1E had a potent air-ground capability & as the USN found out, the F-1 is also capapble of carrying anti-ship ASMs, i.e. Exocet.
Apples & pears, me thinks.
PS: I like both aircraft.
Nice pix!
I always thought the Charles F. Adams DDGs were pretty cool.
I’d have thought they could have been further updated (electronics & weapons) & remain useful, albeit in areas where only low-intensity/limited conflict was possible or likely.
But I read somewhere their range was unsatisfactory/high fuel consumption – I could be wrong.
Thanks!
What are Sino-Brazilian relations like?
I am sure China would be happy to get a toehold in South America with the J-10, which is presumably going to be very competitively priced.
More realistically though, Gripen must be a serious (cost-effective) proposition.
Maybe Brazil could be the launch customer for the JAS-39 Gripen-N, with F414 engine, AESA etc.