Originally posted in Modern Military. Apologies for the non-historic but it’s definitely low…but is it a fake? There doesn’t seem to be a great sense of motion in this shot. Having said that though, the firemen in the background are looking directly at the subject.
Most instruments are manufactured as standard fit to a wide variety of aircraft. Do you have a photo and I can give you an indication of the types of aircraft it would have been fitted too?
Photos attached. Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated.
good prioritising re the crates of Cider, got to keep the bones oiled 😀
Yep. Plus we needed something to block out the memory of the tread depth on the tyres…
Got my nose twitching…..Whats the cargo, looks like pa/lighting/band stuff?
Yes, its about 5 tons of backline plus a monitor rig, nine roadcrew and a couple of crates of cider…
seems perfectly historic to me (i.e. old)
If by that you mean prop driven, slow and the toilet doesn’t work properly, you are spot on…!
Of course this is the pride of my collection…
Thanks for the info B17man. None of the part number prefix listings seem to match unfortunately and no luck on the inspection stamps either. Its a Kollsman A-2B Machmeter. Part number 950EX-4-03. USAF stock no. 6025-950EX-4-03. The inspection stamp is a K in a circle with the number 60 at the top and 2 at the bottom. Mach range is .5 to 1.5. Any clues anyone?
I have spoken to representative of Hawarden Air Services, she was kind of reluctant to talk about the aircraft saying that they do not want to draw attention to them as she did not want ‘loads of aircraft spotters’ turning up disrupting their business. She did say that they had no plans to restore them but also no plans to scrap them either and they are not for sale. I guess they will just sit there until they fall apart- not long to wait for that if Scouse’s photo is anything to go by.
By the way, on the subject of old Russian aircraft, I have posted some pics of a recent flight on an AN12 here-
>And I remember seeing a colour picture of some P-47’s on an album, I think by The Screaming Blue Messiahs.
Good and Gone (1984). Great Album. For some reason the thumbnail will not attach though, please feel free to click on title. And on a related (kind of) note, check out guitar company Schecter’s Aviation Series guitars-
Please tell me that the one at Foulness is not being used for gunnery practice…
According to wrecks & Relics 20 there are the following
Mig 27 coded 23 red
Su17M-3 coded 35 red
Su17B coded 54 redall with Hawarden Air Services
So if the other two are at Newark, I wonder what happened to Mig 23 red 50 then. Scouse did you get a peek over the fence?
Also was anyone here at Broughton or Woodford when they were displayed? Also was there anything in the aviation press when these aircraft were first brought into the country?
Thanks for the info, it would seem that Mig 23 Red 07 and Mig 27 Red 71 are the ones currently at Newark. If your interpretation of the Google Earth image is correct, then one of the two remaining Migs is outside and another is either stored inside or has gone elsewhere…Also here is the info one is given when any of the thumbs are enlarged-
“Some ten years ago, a consignment of Russian aircraft was shipped through Liverpool’s Seaforth Docks, and onwards to Hawarden.
Here the plan was to make as many as possible airworthy for onward sale. Engineering work commenced on a number of
airframes but was subsequently halted. The majority still remain hangared or parked outside in 2004″
Airworthy??!! If I used smilies I’d be using the one for shocked now. The Sukhoi mystery remains though.
So is the pledge appeal closed now? I tried to contribute and have repeatedly got the following message-
>Sorry but the form was not sent due to the following errors:
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>Invalid referer: ‘http://www.vulcantotheskyclub.co.uk‘.
Wow, quick reply! Thanks for info. The recent purchase explains why I saw nothing then. Looks like someone is going to have a few busy weekends…