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  • December 5, 2007 at 2:52 pm in reply to: USAAF C-47 Crash Near Brighton #1258336
    Garry Owen
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    All I can add is It was a 439th Troop Carrier Group aircraft. You should be able to obtain the accident report from the US.

    Garry.

    November 3, 2007 at 8:57 pm in reply to: F.8 Meteor at Sennybridge Range #1295341
    Garry Owen
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    Hi Guys,

    I’m afraid most of the “targets” in Wreacks & Relics-Range Targets have long gone,either as scrap of into preservation.

    Not sure about the Sennybridge Meteor though!

    Garry.

    November 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm in reply to: French B-17 Pink Lady to be "grounded for good"!!! #1297000
    Garry Owen
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    I agree about the EU being totally useless,but I must admit I’m in two minds about the B-17 being grounded. It’s wounderful to see her fly,but the fact she is the only B-17 in Europe to have actually flown combat missions makes her such a historic aircraft part of me is glad she won’t be at risk of being lost in an accident now.

    I know most on here would like to see all preserved aircraft fly so my feelings probably won’t go down well,but it is my opinion.

    Garry.

    October 21, 2007 at 7:43 pm in reply to: Mosquito Aircrew Memorial stolen! #1311997
    Garry Owen
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    The police were called, but three hours later had not shown up.

    Hi LL,

    This sounds familiar:mad: One way of getting the local plod to turn up when needed is to dial 999 and say one of the yobs has a gun,after all they were firing projectiles at the Vulcan,and see how fast you get a responce:diablo:

    Garry.

    October 20, 2007 at 7:55 pm in reply to: Mosquito Aircrew Memorial stolen! #1312979
    Garry Owen
    Participant

    I know it’s tempting to talk of what should be done to then IF caught(and I must admit there have been some pretty good suggestions:dev2: ) but perhaps it would be more worthwhile to look at ways future thiefts can be discouraged/prevented? I’m thinking along the lines of security systems such as movement activated CCTV cameras. I know this sounds expensive but some systems are around at less than £100. I have seen Cameras used for monitering on high ground crash sites and they do take some pretty good shots.

    Garry.

    October 17, 2007 at 12:23 pm in reply to: Mosquito Aircrew Memorial stolen! #1319470
    Garry Owen
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    Hi Bruce,

    The ba5tards:mad: how did they actually remove it? must have gone equipped? and how did they lift it,a group of people or a hiab?.

    Something similiar happend up here some years ago,a local farmer made a memorial to the crew of a bomber which crashed on his land,he used a single prop blade from the aircraft but someone walked off with it.

    Garry.

    October 11, 2007 at 10:51 am in reply to: High ground wrecks #1326341
    Garry Owen
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    Not a lot I’m afraid,the truth is however intact most wreckage on high ground sites is good for patterns at best,though there are exceptions.

    If it were possible to look at many of the sites as they were in the early 70’s through todays eyes the story would be rather different,hindsight is a wonderfull thing!

    Garry.

    October 11, 2007 at 9:38 am in reply to: Aviation Wreckology (the early digs) where are the pieces now? #1326471
    Garry Owen
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    Startling revelations came from the diving amnesty and alot of the time the items were recorded and handed back.

    I think that was the main point of the diving amnesty,to record what is out there,rather than taking it from those who have it.

    Garry.

    October 9, 2007 at 10:35 pm in reply to: Aviation Wreckology (the early digs) where are the pieces now? #1328106
    Garry Owen
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    Who goes first. Who has access. What exactly is on the list.

    Alan,good points but no reason not to do it. To answer your three main points

    1.first group on the BAAC membership list and work down.(or they could draw straws;) )

    2. Anyone who makes a reasonable request,after all we are talking about “our” history here!.

    3. Everything held by BAAC members,listed by crash site.

    Garry.

    October 9, 2007 at 10:27 pm in reply to: High ground wrecks #1328159
    Garry Owen
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    Hi Elliott,

    Just a suggestion,but do you have any details of Whitley parts which you know to have been present on specific sites but which have since been removed by persons unknown? If you have would it be worth posting a list to see what turns up?

    I’m not saying everyone who has Whitley parts should hand them over to Elliott but perhaps it would be useful to him and others to know if certain parts previously thought lost do actually survive.

    Garry.

    October 9, 2007 at 10:13 pm in reply to: Aviation Wreckology (the early digs) where are the pieces now? #1328182
    Garry Owen
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    Hi Neil,

    Another BIG can of worms:D :diablo:

    Should these finds from previous years be listed on a national register?

    I know a while back the diving community were asked to bring any items they had to light to see if they had any historical value.

    Should we have a similar amnesty in the aviation wreckology world?0

    In short yes and yes,but I will be shocked if it happens! this is the sort of thing the BAAC should really be working on,but a list of what survives now V what was removed in the past would raise certain questions which I’m sure some would rather not answer.

    If UK aviation archaeology is to continue it will need to clean up it’s act in several ways,better recording,better long term preservation and a willingness to break with the attitudes of the past would be a start.

    I’ll get my coat!

    Garry.

    October 8, 2007 at 8:03 am in reply to: High ground wrecks #1330078
    Garry Owen
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    I’m not knocking Elliott here but..

    see history rot on the hill side.

    Far better to see it recovered. Which museum is Boston Z2186 in did you say:confused: I can’t seem to remember:dev2:

    Elliott I have photos of many of the high ground sites going back to the 1970’s but they are all in the “old fasioned” printed format. As and when I get chance I will post some along with the eventual fate of much of the wreckage post recovery,I have many of the old recovery group reports from the early 70’s onwards and they make for interesting reading,one especially springs to mind where a certain recovery group decided to romp off to a certain crash site which was(and still is) on private land,apart from listing the wreckage they removed they also complain about how difficult it was to climb over the fences to get to the site!

    Garry.

    October 7, 2007 at 9:36 pm in reply to: Lancaster NF920 Easy Elsie Wreck In Laponia(2007) #1330328
    Garry Owen
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    I have to agree with SteveP on this. The Hampden at East Kirkby comes to mind as a project more deserving of time and funds.

    Garry.

    October 7, 2007 at 9:06 pm in reply to: Birkenhead Spitfire Recovery #1330348
    Garry Owen
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    What happened to all the parts from high ground sites in Snowdonia which used to be at Fort Perch?

    Garry.

    October 5, 2007 at 2:53 pm in reply to: Save Prince G-AMLZ #1242338
    Garry Owen
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    I guess the question now is,will they part with it and if so who’s going to take it on? I can and will if no one else wants to! It really should stay in the area where it was built.

    Jon what do you suggest?

    Garry.

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