Air Ministry, I must remember never to play cards with you as you always come up trumps… 😉
Many thanks
Stuart
There is no question of them being moderated.
I’m just waiting the right moment for my
“Post your pictures of the here” thread
Moggy
Overlapping post with Bruce
Boulton Paul Overstrand
Now your talking… 😉
I think there’s alot of information from the Wars lying around in draws, attics and boxes in the garage, which if not shown will eventually just disappear and with it a snap-shot of historic value is lost. I wish more people got all their old photo’s out from the dark and scanned them and put them on the net for all to see…
I for one would like to know just how much ordinary people have stashed away about the Whirlwind, that their Fathers, Uncles, Brothers, flew and worked on in this country, probably a staggering amount… 😉
Mr BlueSky…
This one Cee’s…
http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-51715.html
The only other ‘Re-Build’ is our vitual one.
Unless of course someone else knows different…
Tangmere1940
Errr….would you like me to ask Alfred?
Yes please, that would be great, thank you Tangmere…
He wrote a piece for the Aeroplane (May 2006 Issue) titled “Flying the Whirligig” where he talked to Sqn Ldr John Wray DFC, who led 137 Sqn during 1943 about what the Whirlwind was like to fly…
Brilliant news, thanks again…
Do you need any other info?
Two things to consider here could the picture in the magazine have been enhanced from the pilots notes useing modern digital immaging methods.
Andrew, in my limited experience with manipulating images, i’ve found its far easier to simplify an image by losing detail than it would be to enhance one by adding something that isn’t there. So no I don’t think it has been enhanced.
Is your version of the picture from original or reproduction AP? I have a few copies of original pilot’s notes and the cockpit images are quite good quality
The top image is a photocopied image from an original Whirlwind AP that I got from Rolls-Royce Derby Heritage Trust a number of years ago.
I also have a copy of the ‘Crecy’ AP.
There is a certain amount of degradation between the two, as you would expect between a photocopy and a printed version, but not as much as there would be from an original photograph and a retouched one…
Tony, how come someone so beautiful, knows so much… 😉
I’ll give them a bell first thing Monday…
Cheers
Stuart
PS, that first bit, don’t take this to heart, did’nt really mean it…
The chap who wrote the article with the cockpit photo is a Dr Alfred Price… 🙂
A quick Google showed he is quite the aviation writer, with a number of books to his name…
So, where exactly can I find it, is it on-line and can you buy prints from the collection… ?
Would this not be a photo from the Pilot’s Notes?
Ah! I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice that… :rolleyes:
Well spotted that man… 😉
JDK
Best suggestion I can make is ask if they can forward a letter to the feature’s author, and he/she may be able to advise where they got it.
Good, I shall do that, thank you JDK
It’s amazing to find out just how much work went into getting a photo of a cockpit into print.
Mind you I would have sacked the bloke who traced the original, his shoddy work has made my eyes bad trying to make out whats-what… :rolleyes:
That last bit was a joke, so don’t take offence… :diablo:
Thanks for the replies
It looks like a 6A/1002 Clock, Mk.IIA (36 hr movement)
Items 92 & 93 Flap & UC levers are’nt showing, the 2 switches center, below flying panel are missing in the original and Item 111 Automatic Recognition Device Control is absent…
I’ve tried all the biggies, RAF Museum, IWM, PRO and Westlands… 🙁
None of them had the original photos that were used for the AP, nor did they know who took them or where they might have gone…
So thats why the picture in the Aeroplane article was special, it looks like it’s one of the original photos that was rejected for the final print… D’oh!
It must be a private collector who has it, lucky blighter, I would pay good money for a copy too…
Said and done Peter… 😉
The photo’s look the same at first glance, but are slightly different, must have been one of the photos not chosen for the AP…
Steve, Aeroplane…:(
😮 Thanks for that DJ, found one here:
I don’t think the chap asking for info will be able to strech to that amount though, wonder if they do a paperback?
Hmmm… Thanks Terry, I thought as much!
Shame, as I know that the manufacturer of the AC in question has’nt got them, or for that matter does’nt know who even took them?
I already have the AP, but hoped the original photo’s might be still around somewhere as they were of higher detail than the printed image in the AP… 🙁
Ah well, never mind I will have to search a little harder!
Thanks again…