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February 19, 2013 at 1:49 am in reply to: Data Plate. How much? #991263

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Moggy C, did you really expect a clean cut, straight forward, believable answer???

If a collector of Spitfire Memorabilia buys it, probably the low 4 figures(pounds sterling), if someone with the funds to re/build a flying spitfire buys it for the identity/provenance, possibly low five figures(pounds sterling).

If you are seriously interested and not just creating a throw away thread out of idle curiosity, post it for auction on Ebay, put a massive reserve on it and see what level of bidding is reached. If the wealthy re/builder is out there, they will probably contact you privately anyway.

It’s all about supply and demand, and specifically letting as many people who might be interested, know that it is available.

Prices of vintage/warbird parts/projects/items is not discussed often enough in the public domain and because of this, unrealistic values are attributed to items of low value, which harms genuine restoration/rebuild projects, museums and private collectors alike. How often do you see prices mentioned in your favourite warbird magazine?

February 10, 2013 at 1:58 am in reply to: P38 Aluminium model help please. #1002379

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The published unit history of the 27th Air Depot Group'”New Guinea Diary” mentions unit members casting model P-38’s in their spare time whilst at Port Moresby in 1943.

Air Depot Groups(in the SWPA) were extremely practical and efficient outfits, capable of achieving tasks which are difficult to believe possible in hindsight.

February 8, 2013 at 12:46 pm in reply to: Seen on eBay – 2013! #1004428

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Is that actually true that an item is worth what anyone is prepared to pay?

Well David, the fact that H.M.S. Vulture has a prop hub and Wyvernfan doesn’t, means YES, it is true.

February 4, 2013 at 1:27 pm in reply to: How to rivet #1010365

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ZRX61 I think you did a very good job explaining that.

The next question will be about the english wheel and complex curvature.

February 4, 2013 at 1:21 pm in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #1010373

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oldgit158,…Er….if that councillor is serious, then it might be YOUR council rates that fund the dig….

…Wonder if she’ll put any on the bar for the watchers, I mean enthusiastic supporters.

February 1, 2013 at 6:33 pm in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #1013698

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……………..Oookay…..first round on me. Just what exactly is the name of this pub in the retail park near the Kingsbury Rd/Chester Rd roundabout? Wouldn’t be ,”The Buried Merlin”by any chance would it? Perhaps ,”The Spitfire and Shovel”?

This December 16th Birmingham Mail article;

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/pensioner-reveals-exact-location-of-spitfires-375662

Mentions the witness watching planes land at the airport, whilst he talked with the Bofors gunners, in 1950! Just who were you chaps fighting in 1950, that Brum needed AA at your airports? North Korea, perhaps?

But then again, it also says,” they found the ones in Burma.”

February 1, 2013 at 12:10 pm in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #1014343

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Thank you RLWP. As originator of this thread, I fully support the name change to;

Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?)

Moggy C can you action that?

After all, the witnesses are Brummies, the Councillor is a Brummie and all those people sitting/standing around me in the front bar of that pub whilst we watch the dig…will be Brummies. Best to have them all on side I’m thinking.

February 1, 2013 at 11:31 am in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #1014389

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Why is the first news release since the RAFM recovery of a RAF Aircraft missing in action for 70 years being made in the United States of America? Have your news media covered the RAFM recovery mission to Egypt?

February 1, 2013 at 10:25 am in reply to: In todays paper, TIGHAR wags its tail again. #1014556

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I would expect that any British Citizen who has a problem with a foreign recovery team being granted approval to recovery this aircraft could lodge a complaint with the proper authorities.
I would further expect that quite a few members of this forum would have sufficient historic aviation experience and involvement that their concerns would carry some weight with those authorities.
Failing that, the track record of the foreign recovery group could be presented for public scrutiny and comment.

February 1, 2013 at 3:47 am in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #936034

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For the ignorant amongst us, can someone please elaborate on the differentiation between Birmingham and Brum? Thanks.

Yes, I will accept the position as spokesman for the ignorant.

January 31, 2013 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #937103

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🙂

January 31, 2013 at 11:26 am in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #937194

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I guess if it was logical and easy, someone would have recovered the parts years ago.

If a Russian can invest $1,000,000 to support an English rumour on the far side of the world, surely someone in England can stump up 800 pounds to check for buried metal in your own backyard.

January 31, 2013 at 10:01 am in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #937287

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Moggy C, the witness says the engines were driven down into an underground concrete building(bunker). Who is to say that the original intention was not just to clear them out of the factory and place them in out of the way storage until the powers that be decided what to do with them. So the corrosion inhibiting was done with the intention that ultimately they would be brought back into use, but time passed and that never happened.

When push came to shove it was easier to just seal the underground storage rather than pull everything out and dispose of it properly. As has been already posted, the Scrap merchants of Birmingham already had yards brimming with aircraft engines, did they reall need anymore.

January 31, 2013 at 8:40 am in reply to: Spitfires from Birmingham/Brum (or not?) #937354

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So if a Birmingham City Councillor is onboard, then she would have access to council archives and archivists, and wouldn’t the council have JCB’s of their own? 800 quid seems a small outlay for a magnetometer survey. I wonder if the Birmingham Print media will get behind this? It’s the sort of thing that fires up imaginations and captures peoples attention. Wargaming paid alot for the publicity, BCC could really capitalise on this.

Wow, the possibilities. I would think the landlord of that pub might be supportive too.

January 31, 2013 at 4:44 am in reply to: Public AWAL notice for aussie warbird members #937513

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Pretty much agree with Mark, I avoid Facebook for privacy reasons and despit owning a warbird, am not a member of AWAL. Prefering instead to deal direct with CASA regardless of cost. The recent court action shows how self regulation has it’s short comings. Best to deal with a Government Authority that can fine me and I can litigate against them. There is also a small measure of control through public interest and elected representatives.
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