Moggy, I have never known you to be so tactful. That thing is down right UGLY.
Is Kent nice at this time of year?
Yes, and those large crabs have a wonderful coconut flavour! You should try one, put your name down for the next expedition. Seriously, they are lying and chasing funding, don’t we call that fraud?
Not an uncommon accident in a P-40. Pilot has to hand pump the gear after using the electrically driven hydraulic pump. Gear is only held down by hydraulic pressure, if pilot does not ensure the system is completely pressurised (using the hand pump) there may be insufficient pressure to hold the gear in position. Similar accident occurred with Mike Spaulding’s P-40 in Australia a couple of years ago. Either that or it is mechanical failure. Not sure why the controller feels compelled to call the local PD everytime there is an accident.
Nobody Hurt ?????? Are you offering to pay for the repair? Someone is going to hurt.
A forum, by it’s nature. Is not a place for secrets. Only last week moderator Bruce locked a thread because the poster knew information but was prevented from posting it. Because it was a secret. We all have secrets, most of us dont go on open forums and boast about them. So telling the forum that you have information about “The Pitt Spitfire” but are not allowed to share it …? It’s deserving of moderator comment. And Moggy, a moderator who is actually posting as a moderator.
Paul Mc, I have only just read the article you were referring to. I believe it’s only three. The PNG National Museums, The HARs example and the the project listed for sale with Classic Wings/Graham Orphan. What I found interesting was the Reference to Historic Aircraft Restoration Ltd, how does that fit in with the Historic Aircraft Restoration Society ? Seems a bit confusing.
Wondy, apparently the P-38H-5-LO 42-66841 “Scarlet Scourge” has been sighted being trucked around England. We are waiting for the Classic Jets Flying Museum in Adelaide, Australia to confirm this. It has been on display at their museum for some years now. The thread seems to have been hijacked when Daniel suggested that “We aint seen nothing yet” and Flakbait suggested that Daniel was referring to the Historic Aircraft Restoration Society(HARs) restoring three P-38s in Australia.Which has been reported previous.
So now you are up to date. I guess the question that most interests us, is whether 42-66841 has changed hands or is it being restored to flying condition in the UK(or both).
No. Don’t believe so. I saw that wreckage at HARs, about 2 years ago, but have since read it is back in the states. I think Rob cherry picked the spares he needed and on sold the project.
Peter,
That looks like the storage yard outside the Precision Aerospace Productions hangar at Wangarratta in Victoria. And, very difficult to confirm from this angle, but I’m guessing that is Rob Greinert’s P-38G-5-LO 42-12847 “DUMBO” which he recovered from the Terapo airstrip in Gulf Province PNG. Cant recall the Identity of Gerry Yagen’s P-38 project that was also at Wang, but he did have the empennage of P-38H-5-LO 42-66905″”Japanese Sandman II” ( the centre section is still at the Dobodura Air Base in Oro Province PNG). The P-38F-5-LO that HAR’s is doing for the PNG National Museum is 42-12647 “Dottie From Brooklyn”. Not sure what the identity of the third P-38 they have been advertising through Classic Wings will be, but they do have a significant spares holding.
The arrival of P-38H-5-LO 42-66841 in England took me by surprise. Will be interesting if it’s there for restoration or been sold. I would have thought the PNG Government would have attached some restrictive conditions to it’s export.
Great photo. Thanks.
Matt, The original restoration was only ever to museum display standard, hence the 23E50s. I suspect most of the sheet metal used wasn’t 2024 standard either(or even aviation grade).
Bruce,They no longer own that airframe.
Just to expand on that. I was not in any way associated with the acquisition, recovery or exportation of P-38H 42-66534. I did provide assistance to the US Army’s JPAC team who subsequently visited the site. Lt Weldon is believed to have survived the crash and perished, either due to exposure or the Japanese Army. As previously stated, his remains have never been located.
Bruce alluding to a 2nd P-38 with the CJFM is referring to P-38H 42-66534. This aircraft went MIA on the 18th of January 1944 with Lt John Weldon. With the assistance of Capt Richard Leahy, I visited the Crashsite in the mid 1990s, I believe I was the first European to do so. It force landed intact and was burned by the pilot, who has never been located. CJFM recovered and exported the wreck back to Adelaide, it was advertised for sale through Courtesy Aircraft and was purchased by a Delaware registered company( the owner being a Mr Thomas). This restoration project consisted only of tail booms, empennage and outer wings. No centre section. This cannot be the P-38 sighted in the UK unless major advancements have been made since the purchase. And then it would have had to come from the USA, not Australia.
What is Bentwaters? The Classic Jets Flying Museum (CJFM) have started to restructure their museum with the intention of restoring their P-38 to flying condition. At least that is the information that is coming out of Adelaide. Is Bentwaters a restoration facility or are we suggesting that the aircraft has changed ownership?