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  • in reply to: Isles of Scilly Helicopter service to end #529570
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    Isles of Scilly (full circle)

    As indicated BEA were a nationalised company and therefore had the luxury of not having to justify the cost of replacing the ‘Rapide’ service.
    However one could also use the argument that the improved service did ‘open up’ the tourist trade, although the the counter claim could be that it started to spoil the very nature of the Isles.
    The Isles will revert back to a fixed wing service at St Just (plus NQY and Exeter) plus the sea link.
    There has been a huge amount of development in recent years not to mention a dramatic increase in motor transport,and argriculture is steadily decreasing as the Isles loose the ‘early growth’ factor that they enjoyed for years.
    It could be called ‘progress’,but we all know it means changing that ‘special’ factor.

    in reply to: Isles of Scilly Helicopter service to end #529685
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    PX figs to SCY

    The PX numbers (dropping) to SCY are only one part of the equation.
    There is a finite charge that any business can pass on and still make an operating profit.
    Helicopters really only do this with oil related work, where the alternatives are limited.
    As the S61 service started off on a subsidised basis the fare structure was always going to be difficult to rise to cover the real operating (including replacing equipment) cost.
    You then have to accept the ‘seasonal’ nature of the business model which really see’s any summer profit evaporating during the winter.
    Having got used to what was essentially a ‘walk on flying train’ that could operate in most weathers,the users accepted that as the ‘norm’ and of course it prooved very popular.
    In its heyday the airfield was still utilising grass runways therefore there was little incentive to upgrade its fixed wing situation.
    The fixed winged operators (such as they were) basically operated on the crumbs that BEA left, and found that the route was not paved with aviation gold due to the fixed costs that were only really utilised for a few months.
    As previously mentioned, a substantial transport report some time ago made this point,and it has prooved to be correct.
    Wether a smaller bespoke service to Tresco comes along will be interesting to see,or even will Tresco seek to have their own STOL strip for the current fixed wing types.
    Some of the most enjoyable (fixed wing) flying i ever had for years, but of course in the real financial world the numbers have to add up for it to be sustainable.

    in reply to: Isles of Scilly Helicopter service to end #529706
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    PZ (the last rites)

    Thanks for that LS (would not have been possible in the the good old film days). I am more used to looking down on the site on working days,and remember when the EH101 came down for some PR and local tests.
    In fact many yeras ago the ’tilt rotor’ was thought of as a possible future machine,but then fuel was cheap,and no one had any idea of the development costs.
    What made the 61 (EB) work on this route was its capacity, and the modifications incorporated to allow rapid turnarounds (hull baggage entry).
    This machine is up to approx 50,000 hrs,so certainly did its job but has no real economic replacement.In the 80’s the service was boosted by the addition of a WG30 (single crew 19px) on the route,but this type never really made it into the civil Heli world, and few were produced.
    It is fair to say that this service really put the Isles into the modern tourist realm,and was only possible due to the operation being part of a nationalised company (BEA) at the time.The spin off to the local economy has been considerable,but in the end the spectre of higher costs, and no real replacement that can carry 30 px was always going to be a difficult situation to overcome.The recent pass numbers were approx 90,000 per year with approx 30,000 going direct to Tresco.

    in reply to: Isles of Scilly Helicopter service to end #529750
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    Penzance air link.

    Quite a while ago there was a report into the transport situation with relation to the Isles of Scilly.
    This projected that the helicopter service would prove to be unsustainable for the long term,and therefore a ‘fixed wing’ option would have to prevail.
    Skybus had to fight to get a licence for a scheduled service as their original service was ‘charter’ based,and only Brymon supplied the other limited operation to the Isles.
    In fact business was good in those days and the helicopter flew with high % payloads.
    Even so they had the advantage of a machine that was specifically modified for the route with baggage hatches slotted into the hull to reduce turnaround times.
    As the company advanced through BEA, BA,Maxwell.and then being part of commercial companies, so it lost the protection of a subsidised offshoot and back up equipment.The S61 has been a faithful servant,but only at an increasing operating cost that would never match the fares.
    The main problem is that passengers (local & tourists) have got used to a service that was always going to have a problem funding new equipment (even if it existed) and therefore it comes down to ‘who pays’!!.
    In fact; the Islands do have a comprehensive fixed wing service,and emergency coverage from the local air ambulance plus Culdrose.
    Skybus are organising extra coverage to fill the ‘air-gap’,but they will have the added ongoing problem of having excess capacity in the low months which reduces the operating profit.
    My idea of a giant hydraulic catapault (with computer prediction) seems almost plausible now.

    in reply to: Burmese Spitfires (again) #989477
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    There was Kenley !!!

    What ‘was’ at Kenley that was unexpected Andy !!!,unless you mean a couple of hulks that the local kids had played in for years.

    in reply to: Isles of Scilly Helicopter service to end #529773
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    Penzance HP ‘final PT movement’

    Nice shot L-Shot,and i popped in this evening to see the final flight come in and say goodbye to some of the team (including former ones who turned up).
    The last flight came in late,no doubt due to a tearful departure event,and was greeted by many wellwishers.FJ took a rotors running refuel and eventually departed to NQY.
    Standing in the front of an (empty of aircraft) hangar i enquired what was to happen with the structure and the answer seemed to indicate it will be rapidly demolished !!,thereby ensuring the site is deemed as abandoned for aviation use,and clearing the decks for a s-mkt.
    A sad day for PZ and also a warning that the all powerful s-mkts continue to erode us of facilities that are unfortunate enough to be located on ‘development land'(former rubbish tip).This sorry tale has seen a valuable transport facility sacrificed to the God of retail !!!! RIP.

    in reply to: Isles of Scilly Helicopter service to end #529874
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    End of an Era

    Gave PZ a call on 118.1 yesterday;wished them luck, and thanked them for 36 years (for me) of a traffic info service in the PZ area.The final flight will come back from SCY at 17.30 today and then the last 61 will depart to NQY,leaving no aircraft on site.
    Still unsure what will happen to the location in the short term as there is a possibility of a judicial review regarding the granting of planning permission for a supermarket.
    Needless to say the weather forecast this week will only fuel concerns regarding the loss of this service in the winter months.
    For Penzance this will be the end of an aviation link going back to 1964,which of course was to replace the BEA Rapides that had operated from St Just.

    in reply to: BoB behind the scenes 8mm #1017146
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    BoB footage

    Amazing act of vandalism demolishing that perfectly good Belfast shed !!!!

    in reply to: learning to fly #400051
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    Learning to fly

    Do not go for the ‘cheapest’ and any sort of ‘up-front’ discount scheme.
    You may have to travel a bit further to learn with an ‘established’ school that is operating decent equipment.

    in reply to: What is your lifestyle when you own a plane? #400618
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    Airpark

    There is no reason why some of our disused airfields could not have been used as ‘airparks’ for those wishing to buy into that type of living.
    Not only would it have provided employment, but it would clear up derilict ‘eyesores’ that abound in the UK and provide nil employment or purpose.
    On the basis that they are for ‘residential’ use the lack of training movements gives the nimby lobby no ammunition re enviromental issues.
    Unfortunatley this is the Uk, which means there is more encouragement for the benefit society rather than promoting a ‘can do’ attitude to create real employment opportuities.
    The other real scandal are those abandoned’ MOD sites that fall into decay along with hundreds of what were perfectly good homes and facilities.
    Good old UK; won the Battle of Britain,but lost the war of economy.
    Having said that i had several pleasant ‘work’ trips this week including The Isles of Scilly, Perranporth in Cornwall, and Dunkeswell in Devon, it was a pleasure to go to all of them, and the ATC at Newquay do a great job.

    in reply to: Thunder City Lightning crash report out #1077648
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    CAA and the E E Lightning

    I do not see any evidence that the CAA will ‘HARP’ on this issue, as this unfortunate incident only confirms just how difficult it is to operate a former complex machine without both factory and service back up.The CAA made thier decision based on former RAF pilot experience and no doubt the manufacturers would have had an input. You really have to look at its service record to begin to understand all that is involved;and then remember it was NEW at the time.

    in reply to: 18th August 1940 – The hardest day #1084426
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    Kenley Raid

    One of the reasons that the low level Kenley raid is well documented is that war correspondents were on board the Dorniers,and consequently there is a detailed record (and photographs) of the raid. This was also an occaision when our Observer Corps were able to track a small individual raid with great detail,and record its progress.
    The fact that all the Dorniers completed their attack as planned has to be seen as a success; that the overall plan failed to ‘eliminate’ Kenley is well covered in Alfred Prices book. At the time Kenley lacked proper defences, and its facilities were vunerable to any attack. That the op’s room survived was pure luck, no doubt its ‘bungalow’ appearance did little to highlight its importance.The subsequent ‘flack tower’ built to improve its low level protection still stands in a field about a mile to the south (Brooklands also had one added).
    It has to be remembered that like so many of our sector stations Kenley was a ‘peace time’ station not constructed with the ‘bunker’ theme,the facilities were grouped together (not dispersed) and thanks to pre war ‘Lufthansa’ flights their locations and appearance well recorded.

    in reply to: Mayflower Air Services #944614
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    Rapide resce

    Pagen;am i correct in thinking one of the baggage loaders/firemen got a medal for the rescue.
    Some remains of the machine were still evident in the 80’s,as was the remains of a ‘AW Tiger’ engine (another incident) down on the beach/dump !! I remember PC in a TV show (won i think by the Flatley Drier) he wore what looked like a tropical RAF uniform and got to the finals. Its a long time ago but i seem to think the program was call ‘Get Ahead’.
    Called in at the now defunct Plymouth Airport a couple of weeks ago;chopped in half now and looking very forlorn,with development encroaching along the old second runway.
    The Scillies Airfield is very unforgiving for a ‘run off’ incident and has ‘slopes’ in both directions that are quite steep.

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    Cat Rebuild

    I suppose they know about the one ‘scrapped’ at Weston recently.

    in reply to: A ride in a Tandem Tutor #968596
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    tail ballast

    Interesting that they have a ‘tail weight’ fitted with ‘two up’ !!!

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