The Super Etendard Modernise SEM can self designate.
I believe the plan is as France retires their Super Etendard the SEM components will be removed and fitted to the Argentine examples. The French retirement presents a huge opportunity for Argentina as they will be able to buy all the remaining French spare parts plus cannibalise French airframes of anything useful. That should significantly extend Argentine Super Etendard life as well as add new capabilities.
Its not up to the islanders to determine, the land has a soul in itself. And that belongs to Argentina. The world opinion is in Argentina’s favour as well.
Its not up to the Islanders to decide? The Islands have an Argentine soul?
Piffle and balderdash Sir!
So people who have born, lived, had children and died on those Islands for 180 years have no say in what’s done with them?! Generations of people some of whom are descended from the colonists that Argentina wrongly states were kicked off in 1833 have no determination over their own land! A land that isn’t a colony as Argentina persistently incorrectly states.
As for international support for Argentina’s point of view I think you will find that a fickle matter.
Frankly all your comments on what was meant to be a light hearted thread have been clearly born out of an irrational hatred of the British. In the end I can’t help the fact that for a period of time Britain ruled India, India is a proud independent nation and I don’t see why Britain has to apologise for anything after the event.
Amusing point there Levsha.
On a serious note the Tu-160 can’t really be seen as a contemporary of the B1B, a fairer comparison would be the cancelled B1A.
The B1B is intended to perform low level penetration missions into Russia launching from the UK and attacking critical targets with tactical nuclear weapons. The Tu-160 and B1A were intended as high altitude strategic platforms that are capable of flying up to Mach 2.
Well thats nice Quadbike. I believe Pakistan wants Kashmir and it has direct proximity due to a shared land border. Now I realise that India has control at the moment and also shares the border so the only fair solution is to draw a line down the middle give Pakistan half and all the Indian population can just move onto the Indian side…
Now I know you will regard that idea as utterly unacceptable Quadbike, but that is what you are effectively suggesting should be done with the Falklands. Proximity doesn’t mean an automatic right to a place. Now I realise that your opinion is coloured by Britain’s history colonial rule but here’s the thing, there is no Empire any more we gave back or ceded our colonial positions to the locals. What we have left now is a small number of very small territories that didn’t want to leave British control.
In the end European nations a long time ago decided to form empires. Those days are long gone, that doesn’t mean we should just roll over and stab people in the back.
Getting back to aviation, Argentina’s military is in no state to take the Falkland Islands.
You guys habve some weird reasoning when it comes to Falklands. Let me give you an analogy – imagine USA taking uninhabited Jemur islands in Indonesia, choosing few dozens of US citizens to settle there, helping them out to build some basic infrastructure and them asking them in a referendum poll:
Do you want this island to be a part of the USA or Indonesia?
What do you think the result would be? I give it 99.9% that the settlers vote for the USA but that is hardly a reason to claim Jemur legitimate territory of the United States from now on..
I dunno its fairly simple for me. The Falklands have been populated since the 1830’s by a British population including 22 of the 30 or so people who the Argentines said we threw off in 1833. We have now had a minor conflict during 1982 which has settled the matter.
Now back to Fireman Sam the naval reservist on HMS Hermes…
This is all very well guys but when do I get to watch Thomas the Tank Engine meets Vince the Vulcan?
Synopsis:
Thomas meets Vince the Vulcan whilst he is staying on the Isle of Sodor training to fly South and help save the Islanders of the Falklands.
During the adventures Thomas also meets Vince’s boss and the Fat controllers cousin: the thin Air Vice Marshall.
Well as I said I’m writing to CBBC right now for a UK early years cartoon of the war.:)
Before any mods ask there is A Super Etendard and Sea Harrier in the cartoon.
All military aviation related:D
Oh there is a sing along as well:
He opened the door and you walked right in…:p
Let’s not forget about styling too. Thunder is the first, I repeat, the first, jet that employs DSI technology. In addition to a number of benefits, DSI looks way cooler than the traditional diverter and shock cone intakes. These days, styling sells. 😀
In terms of aerodynamics, the DSI is what makes Thunder the first of the new breed. As for avionics, AESA is scheduled for this year.
DSI DSI DSI jk jk 😀
Research concerning DSI has been going on for a number of years, the first aircraft to employ it was the F16. It offers as you suggest a number of advantages the most significant being a complex variable inlet ramp is no longer needed. It does also have disadvantages in certain flight regimes and requires some complex CFD work to make it work with an airframe.
Many aircraft could benefit from the concept and it could be retrofitted to a number of designs. As it is purely aerodynamic fix to a very conventional aluminium airframe to suggest it makes the whole aircraft the first of a new breed is at best naive and at worst borish.
That China has the aerodynamic know-how and computing power to design these kind of aerodynamic fixes is impressive but it doesn’t propel what is a very normal fighter into a technology realm it isn’t part of.
Certainly feel pride in Chinese developments but don’t hit us over the head with it.
Problem is preservation is a thorny issue that affects anything that is mechanical in nature and built out of metals! It is expensive to maintain and repair elderly ships, there isn’t an infinite pot that allows for money no object preservation. There just isn’t the public interest to invest in that kind of thing and government support takes public money away from other things. Also our climate is hardly the best suited for external preservation along with the fact that the ships are either sitting in salt water or if lifted out still in a high corrosion salt environment (a good example of that problem is HMS Alliance that whilst sitting on stilts out of the water is still suffering severe corrosion problems). Pretty much the best preservation solution for a ship is to have it in a covered climate controlled dry dock but that is an expensive option.
This isn’t just a problem for ship preservation both aviation and rail preservation are facing similar challenges. In respect of rail many trains are close to having their boiler certificates run out (if it hasn’t already happened) and the cost of having a new one made is prohibitive! If a train is out of action preservation of what is a large amount metal and keeping the rot out is beyond the financial means of many. Many an aircraft museum has also faced the painful choice of trying to fund a restoration or scrapping aircraft that have set out in the open for too long due to lack of hanger space. Many a time we have seen begging requests in this very forum to help preserve an aircraft at some museum.
There is no easy answer sadly but just blaming a lack of patriotic desire to preserve historic metal is rather simplistic. Sadly whilst it is more then possible to preserve very old ships money or lack of it is the defining issue!
What are the Japanese boys doing still flying F-4? :confused: That thing is MiG-21 era plane. I would have expected more from Japan. 😮
Because as others have said it is still a very capable platform that performs its primary roles more then adequately. Also it is a 1960’s design but that doesn’t remove the fact that they are very much 80’s and 90’s when it comes to the avionics inside the airframe.
Is JF-17 still getting inducted? this is one beast, the first true 21st century fighter jet.
http://i-am-modelist.com/2012/02/23/jf-17/
Erm….? First true 21st century jet? Bit of a stretch there!
It has an entirely conventional Aluminium airframe, modern but not radical avionics and an engine based on 1970’s technology that can best be described as an augmented turbojet. The project can trace its roots back to the 80’s and the aircraft has an evolutionary connection with the even earlier Mig-21.
Its certainly an excellent light fighter, with a modern open architecture Western style avionics package at a very attractive price but certainly not the vanguard of new fighter development into the 21st century!
Not really that surprising with developments in China, Russia and South Korea going apace along with the F22 denied as an option they had no choice to look towards a domestic replacement for the F15.
Remember the F35 is a replacement for the F4 in Japanese service, also with F2 production winding down MHI needed a new project to push forward with. Whilst it is a domestic project I fully expect to see manufacturers (American in particular) vying to be technology partners in the project.