This may be cynical but could this have anything to do with CVF? The last news we heard was that the MoD and BAE were still c. £200M apart on the build cost. Who wants to bet that that problem has now gone away in the light of the government ensuring that the Saudi Arabia deal goes ahead?
Indeed!
If you turn to page 7 of the latest addition of AFM you will find a news sub stating that CVF ha been given the green light and is awaiting a political anouncement.
Every year it’s the same thing, this would have to be a recycled as the water in my old ship.
Anyway on this note I have taken Futurama’s idea to the letter and my house is now surrounded in Surface to Santa missiles, he ain’t getting me without a fight.
Ho Ho Ho
“Your Miseltoe is no match for my TOW missile”
You have all been naughty! very naughty!
Except for Zoidburg!
I would be surprised if any of the Invincable class ends up being sunk in an exercise. Sinking ships that size would be sensative with the increasingly strong UK green lobby.
I think the MOD will at least try and sell one of the class as a helicopter carrier with Ark Royal being retained as a backup for Ocean albeit minus her ski jump. The remaining hull being stripped for parts to keep her sisters going before being scrapped out.
I agree that the Invincable class would be a difficult sell considering their heavy life but I think the Ark will be retained longer considering she has gone through two deep refits in recent years and now favours the commando assault carrier role.
F-16A/B Block15 (upgraded) of the Fighter Aviation Group 16 will soldier till the end of their days and side by side with the Su-30MK2 of Fighter Aviation Group 13 and Mirage-50EV/DV of Fighter Aviation Group 11.
Since 1983 they (Group 16’s Vipers) have logged in more than 45.000 hours accord to a local source.
Well if thats the case how long till the airframes time expire?
For that matter with the US not supplying spare parts will they have to start canablising airframes for parts.
Fed: you are right mate, i will have to set you staright, sorry :p
Australia aren’t looking for any LPH’s, we’re upgrading from LPH to LHD
HMAS Manoora and HMAS Kanimbla don’t even come near 9000T displacement and they ships we are looking at are over 20000T (Mistral is 22000T and SPS is 27000T).
Yes the Mistral design is one in contention and ARMARIS have teamed up with Tenix for this deal (countering Navantia and ADI), if Tenix wins, the ships will be built in Williamtown and if ADI win, the ships will be built at Newcastle.
Thanks for the answer Ja, the question has been bugging me for a while.
I doubt early block “a model F16” would be of much interest to Russia.
Will the F-16 squadron be wound down and eventually retired as Su30MK come online?
Not just a rumor! The mk24 Tigerfish was working out as an utter joke at the time. Only 40% of the Mod 0 model worked as advertised and it failed its initial acceptance trials.
One of the torpedo crewman on the Conqueror has stated on the decision to use MK 8’s over the Tigerfish that “every time we fired one in exercises it never hit anything”.
Performance did improve to 80% with the later Mod 2 Tigerfish but by then the Spearfish was on the cards a torpedo which is arguably one of the best (maybe even the best) torpedo in the world.
Afghan Air Force article on Wikipedia says that “Afghan government is negotiating the purchase of the Cessna T-37 Dragonfly small jet aircraft as its main fighter/trainer.”
However, the article doesnt state the source if this info.
Any comments?
Isn’t the T-37 Dragonfly getting on a bit.
Where are they getting them from?
Silly question really and you will probably set me right but what happened about the LPH that the Australian navy were looking into? Wasn’t the Aus navy looking at the Mistral design among others.
Well, how about South Korea, Japan, and Australia? Especially, considering more than likely all three will acquire the F-35…………..other possibilities could include countries like Turkey and Greece!
I’m not sure Australia is in the market for that kind of toy and Japan or South Korea would probably build any carrier themselves.
The Turkish and Greek navies operate reasonably close to land based cover so I would of thought that a carrier would be an unnecessary luxury.
Brazil and Argentina would still be highest on my list.
I presume some of the more juicy stuff that Everett sells like those Kaiser MFD are subject to export restrictions.
True but the question is Venezuela has no right to tell the British what weapon they should buy or who they must have as their leader, that is the biggest mistake of the US and Britain, each democracy has to be wanted has to be desire and protected by the people of each nation in fact i can ask you
Mexico bought Su-27s like Venezuela and they have two presidents one elected by the Government as the official winner of the Mexican presidential elections and another self elected who claims there was a fraud against his party and who has a great support by the Mexican people why the West do not complaign about Mexico`s Calderon? reason simple Calderon is an US ally and Chavez is not
I think you have locked onto the wrong person dude!;)
I agree with your point of view…..
:rolleyes:
It makes sense. India & Italy (assisting with ADS design) working together could market an ADS-based CTOL carrier pretty well, I think. Big questions are –
1) Would there be a market? Would those countries which might be interested (Brazil first in line, possibly also Argentina) have the budget for it?
2) What aircraft? Only CTOL aircraft in production or under development are US (F-18E, F-35C) or Rafale. If I was selling a carrier, I’d prefer my customers to have other options. One way would be to adapt Tejas for catapult launch.
3) Where to get catapults? The USA is now the only country building them, which would make sales dependent on the USA (though that probably wouldn’t be a problem) unless someone else developed a catapult.BTW, the ADS is now the IAC – Indigenous Aircraft Carrier.
Broncho, Harry – agreed, Kitty Hawk is too old. She’ll be 48 years old when she retires from the USN (52 years since laid down).
Yes your right there Swerve Italy would certainly benefit from this, using an Indian yard would keep costs down and Cochin would benefit by having the backing of reputable Italian ship designer.
As for aircraft if the customer went down the CTOL route I would of thought that Rafale would be set to benefit. I think Dassault are so desperate for customers they would cheer on any prospect of CTOL new build.
Oh yeah IAC! Force of habit:rolleyes:
Politics influence weaponry and politics are involved in why they bought SU-30s, the reasons are several, first as any nation they have the right to buy weapons, second they have the right to have the leader they want and third they have the right to stablish commercial and military links to whoever they please because If Chavez ask your nation why you buy JSFs you will say what right he has to ask about a british national right? or why you have Tony Blair in power or why you are in the EU? Venezuleans could also ask about it but they do not and if you want to know more about Venezuela and Chavez read what Lula thinks or watch Telesur
The F 35 is still not a done deal mate!
The sovereignty issue is still rumbling on….