SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
Well, Mongu, xenophobia is hardly a sign of broad-mindedness, now, is it?
What you say about the average footballer’s IQ is true, and in the kingom of the bind, the one-eyed man is king. However, I think his views on life in general are very thought-provoking and would be, whatever walk of life he had chosen.
He is a man who doesn’t mince his words and cuts right through the general BS we swim around in. His attitude probably also stems from his Marseille background.
But it is obvious that he thinks quite deeply about life, its meaning, our place in it, our role, what path we have to follow. Even when he talks about football, there is a passion about his opinions which is rare to find among most modern players whose interviews are often little more than a bore-fest. He also has a way of analysing the game and everything around it which clearly shows an intelligent mind at work and also a sensitive and observant one.
He dabbled in the arts, in painting, was interested in poerty. Now I remember reading that to fulfil his potential as a human being, a Samurai had to become proficient not just in warfare, but also other arts. The sign of a great mind is the ability to excell in different forms of human endeavour.
He is a well rounded person, not a saint, but definitley a bright beacon in a sport and indeed a life populated by a lot of sleepwalkers.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
Well, Mongu, xenophobia is hardly a sign of broad-mindedness, now, is it?
What you say about the average footballer’s IQ is true, and in the kingom of the bind, the one-eyed man is king. However, I think his views on life in general are very thought-provoking and would be, whatever walk of life he had chosen.
He is a man who doesn’t mince his words and cuts right through the general BS we swim around in. His attitude probably also stems from his Marseille background.
But it is obvious that he thinks quite deeply about life, its meaning, our place in it, our role, what path we have to follow. Even when he talks about football, there is a passion about his opinions which is rare to find among most modern players whose interviews are often little more than a bore-fest. He also has a way of analysing the game and everything around it which clearly shows an intelligent mind at work and also a sensitive and observant one.
He dabbled in the arts, in painting, was interested in poerty. Now I remember reading that to fulfil his potential as a human being, a Samurai had to become proficient not just in warfare, but also other arts. The sign of a great mind is the ability to excell in different forms of human endeavour.
He is a well rounded person, not a saint, but definitley a bright beacon in a sport and indeed a life populated by a lot of sleepwalkers.
SnowmanRE: Darwin awards : Stupid but funny !!!
I’ve only read the first few, and I’m sure there’s something wrong with me, but I don’t usually find people’s deaths amusing, whatever the circumstances, especially when you think of the people they leave behoind, who might find it hard to laugh at this….
SnowmanRE: Darwin awards : Stupid but funny !!!
I’ve only read the first few, and I’m sure there’s something wrong with me, but I don’t usually find people’s deaths amusing, whatever the circumstances, especially when you think of the people they leave behoind, who might find it hard to laugh at this….
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-09-02 AT 08:41 AM (GMT)]And if you really want something that makes sense, you can always find a meaning to his utterance anyway.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-09-02 AT 08:41 AM (GMT)]And if you really want something that makes sense, you can always find a meaning to his utterance anyway.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
Hmm, nice display of xenophobic narrow-mindedness there.
Cantona is said to have recently declared that he might just as well said that the curtains were orange and the carpet blue. The fact of the matter is that he did not do the predictable thing which was to offer insincere and grovelling apologies.
It seems pointless to urge you to look into this, but Cantona had a lot of very interesting things to say, about football in general and about life. I grant you, you might not be keen on hearing poetry mentioned in the same breath as the Brazil of 70, and people pften mock what they don’t understand. The fact of the matter is that aprt from being a footballer of genius he was also a fascinating person whose search for the meaning of life and whose strong and uncompromising characater made him an unforgetable figure.
I’ll happily let you enjoy the deligts of inane footballers drone on about how “we scored one more goal than them and , you know, at the end of the day, that’s why we won, innit” before going on a bender and getting up to no good, like someone who has more money than sense.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
Hmm, nice display of xenophobic narrow-mindedness there.
Cantona is said to have recently declared that he might just as well said that the curtains were orange and the carpet blue. The fact of the matter is that he did not do the predictable thing which was to offer insincere and grovelling apologies.
It seems pointless to urge you to look into this, but Cantona had a lot of very interesting things to say, about football in general and about life. I grant you, you might not be keen on hearing poetry mentioned in the same breath as the Brazil of 70, and people pften mock what they don’t understand. The fact of the matter is that aprt from being a footballer of genius he was also a fascinating person whose search for the meaning of life and whose strong and uncompromising characater made him an unforgetable figure.
I’ll happily let you enjoy the deligts of inane footballers drone on about how “we scored one more goal than them and , you know, at the end of the day, that’s why we won, innit” before going on a bender and getting up to no good, like someone who has more money than sense.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
It has to be said though that there was more to Diego than cheating. A recent poll on Channel Four voted his solo effort against England as the best goal or the best football moment ever which goes to show that his skills were not unnoticed even on these shores. Isn’t it also the case that Argentina won in 86 largely thanks to him?
As for George Best, I agree his condition was brought on by himself, but he is aware of it and I think he knows this time that it is his last chance. That’s what he says and I guess he must know it’s true by now.
His skills were absolutely dazzling. Another age, another time, when booze was part of the game. But he was not alone. And more recently, high-profile cases such as Tony Adams and Paul Merson have underlined it was part of the footballing culture. (incidentally, once again, look at the transformation in these two players. Adams in particular, quite apart from his superb achievements on the field, comes across as an admirable man, compassionate it seems and reflective.)
I also remember reading that Best was very, very close to dying when they finally found a donor.
And as for damage brought upon ourselves, I think that this covers a huge amount of hospital cases, from negligence and frankly foolish behaviour to cigarette use, lack of a healthy lifestyle and inadequate diets.
Mongu, I am afraid you typify the reactions of some sections of the British press and some of their readers. If all you know about Cantona’s views on life is the trawlers then you really do not know anything about him. Incidentally, this sentence was in part pretty much some nonsense he spouted to take the mickey out of the media and it seems it worked as they fell for it hook line and sinker.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
It has to be said though that there was more to Diego than cheating. A recent poll on Channel Four voted his solo effort against England as the best goal or the best football moment ever which goes to show that his skills were not unnoticed even on these shores. Isn’t it also the case that Argentina won in 86 largely thanks to him?
As for George Best, I agree his condition was brought on by himself, but he is aware of it and I think he knows this time that it is his last chance. That’s what he says and I guess he must know it’s true by now.
His skills were absolutely dazzling. Another age, another time, when booze was part of the game. But he was not alone. And more recently, high-profile cases such as Tony Adams and Paul Merson have underlined it was part of the footballing culture. (incidentally, once again, look at the transformation in these two players. Adams in particular, quite apart from his superb achievements on the field, comes across as an admirable man, compassionate it seems and reflective.)
I also remember reading that Best was very, very close to dying when they finally found a donor.
And as for damage brought upon ourselves, I think that this covers a huge amount of hospital cases, from negligence and frankly foolish behaviour to cigarette use, lack of a healthy lifestyle and inadequate diets.
Mongu, I am afraid you typify the reactions of some sections of the British press and some of their readers. If all you know about Cantona’s views on life is the trawlers then you really do not know anything about him. Incidentally, this sentence was in part pretty much some nonsense he spouted to take the mickey out of the media and it seems it worked as they fell for it hook line and sinker.
SnowmanRE: What Invention Could You Not Live Without?
Medicines.
SnowmanRE: What Invention Could You Not Live Without?
Medicines.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 03-09-02 AT 03:39 PM (GMT)]I think that Beck’s appeal stems from the fact that he is a more than decent player, who puts himself about and chips in with decisve goals and passes. Also, he is a good-looking and media-friendly lad who has a high-profile marriage.
I think that personality-wise though, he is not blessed with the most interesting personality about. Don’t get me wrong, he is a very nice bloke and a good role model, but not exactly awe-inspiring in terms of insights. He’s probably a good mate and a good son, husbdand and father, but I don’t find his personality all that stimulating I must say.
Hi Kev,
Long time no speak!
It’s funny, but when I think of Maradona, I don’t see the drug abuser or the man with a ravaged and bloated body, but rather the gifted player whose skills lit up the world stage.
He is defintely a dodgy charcater, but also a fascinating one. At least he has interesting things to say, though one often disagrees with them. I incientally strongly recommand a short account written by a bloke who penned a biography of Diego. The account appeared in a collection of football essays called somehting like Foreign Fields. It is a fascinating read and gives a superb insight into Diego and his world (as well as a vivid and very faithful description of surviving a break-up).
I think that George Best is also a very interesting character. He did win trophies and had a successful career. So I don’t think it was entirely wasted, though it might have gone on longer had he not lived a life of excess. Whenever I see him now, I find him utterly captivating and you can tell he has thought about life and drawn his conclusions. There is an aura of calm and kindness around him I find very appealing. And he is a FORMER alcoholic. I hope for his sake that that of his beautiful wife that he stays off the booze for good.
Once again, it’s obvious that a series of trials and ordeals make people more interesting. Look at Becks and the post 98 sending-off evolution he has undergone.
But very often the more fascinating charcaters are those with a dark or ambiguous side. Look at Cantona, whose musings on life and ability to draw connections between seemingly disparate topics went largely unrecognised by the general public, who gorged on a few cichés and sentences and missed out on the hidden part of the iceberg.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 03-09-02 AT 03:39 PM (GMT)]I think that Beck’s appeal stems from the fact that he is a more than decent player, who puts himself about and chips in with decisve goals and passes. Also, he is a good-looking and media-friendly lad who has a high-profile marriage.
I think that personality-wise though, he is not blessed with the most interesting personality about. Don’t get me wrong, he is a very nice bloke and a good role model, but not exactly awe-inspiring in terms of insights. He’s probably a good mate and a good son, husbdand and father, but I don’t find his personality all that stimulating I must say.
Hi Kev,
Long time no speak!
It’s funny, but when I think of Maradona, I don’t see the drug abuser or the man with a ravaged and bloated body, but rather the gifted player whose skills lit up the world stage.
He is defintely a dodgy charcater, but also a fascinating one. At least he has interesting things to say, though one often disagrees with them. I incientally strongly recommand a short account written by a bloke who penned a biography of Diego. The account appeared in a collection of football essays called somehting like Foreign Fields. It is a fascinating read and gives a superb insight into Diego and his world (as well as a vivid and very faithful description of surviving a break-up).
I think that George Best is also a very interesting character. He did win trophies and had a successful career. So I don’t think it was entirely wasted, though it might have gone on longer had he not lived a life of excess. Whenever I see him now, I find him utterly captivating and you can tell he has thought about life and drawn his conclusions. There is an aura of calm and kindness around him I find very appealing. And he is a FORMER alcoholic. I hope for his sake that that of his beautiful wife that he stays off the booze for good.
Once again, it’s obvious that a series of trials and ordeals make people more interesting. Look at Becks and the post 98 sending-off evolution he has undergone.
But very often the more fascinating charcaters are those with a dark or ambiguous side. Look at Cantona, whose musings on life and ability to draw connections between seemingly disparate topics went largely unrecognised by the general public, who gorged on a few cichés and sentences and missed out on the hidden part of the iceberg.
SnowmanRE: What is The Fascination of Beckham as a Footballer?????
Beckham CAN dribble. It might not be his strongest point but he does dribble from time to time. As has been pointed out, his game is about passing and crossing, vision, the dead ball situations. He also runs non-stop during a game, challenges for the ball all over the pitch, can be inspirational (for England for example) and can also chip in with very good goals in open play.
But I disagree with the fact that he is in the same league as Best. Best was a total genius and his skills and abilities, will not be matched by many players. A wonderful talent and definitely in the same bracket as Pelé ,Maradona and Zidane as far as I am concerned.
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