That Sea Fury is a cracking model.
Hogs FPS a bit in 2002 but doesn’t in 2004 although does cause it to crash form time to time. 🙁
I don’t recall any problems with the ground handling on the default FM but I since added my own anyway.
As for the Firefly, well Bazzar form Aeroplane Heaven is in the process of redoing the model for FS2002/4 with all the latest bells and whisltes. Should be great.
If you’re looking for the best UK Airports/Airfields then I suggest, if you haven’t already, try Gary Summons excellent UK2000 series. FYI, this the same package Just Flight recently released as “Britsh Airports”.


His work is seriously brilliant and Part 6 is just around the corner along with updates for his existing work for FS2004.

And it’s all compatible with the VFR Photo Scenery.
Here’s the link to his site:
http://www.uk2000scenery.bizland.com/puplic/
Cheers
Paul
Yes he does make public appearences, most notably at the local thespians productions. 😀
Seriously though I think he does do the odd speech/dinner here and there.
My Dad knows him fairly well.
As you say he is probably the best know and most respected aviation historian around.
Don’t know anything about this Mike Spick guy I’am afraid.
Cheers
Paul
There was also an Islander (I think it was anyway) that that flew overhead OW at about 1500ft during the last Militarty Pagent.
I remember last year I was listening to the goings on at the Goodwood Revival meeting on the Saturday and was amazed how many pilots didn’t realise there was a display going on!??
I thought that that was the whole idea of NOTAM’s? :confused:
Digby, I remember at Goodwood several years ago that two F15’s were halfway through their display when they realised they were over Tangmere!
Cheers
Paul
Well as everyone else is having a go:
“It’s only the beginning, they won’t stop now.”
“For the benefit of the uneducated among us, I shall translate.”
” My god! Their bombing London!”
“Inspector of the undercomm.” (Well that’s what it sounds like) :p
“Who’s he trying to kid?”
Paul
patb,
If all the accidents that had involved Warbirds happened whilst they were doing aero’s, then I think you would have a justified argument.
As for flying in a straight line, well look what happened to poor old Alan Martin in LF363!
As to those who say “Leave the aerobatics to the Pitts etc” well I can’t understand that either. These type of aircraft are designed to and do real aerobatics. I mean, when was the last time you saw a Spitfire do a Lomcovak and pull 8G?
Obviously the risks increase the lower to the ground you go, whether the display is aerobatic or non, but I think I’d feel safer in the back of a Mustang doing a low level aerobatic display than in the back of a car on the M25!
Bruce,
No problem!
It was a real tragedy when she and the crew were lost.
The strange thing for me was that I hadn’t seen RR299 in the flesh for a number of years until one day in 1996 as I was walking around our town; I heard the sound of a familiar aero engine. As I looked up I was privileged with the sight of her flying at about 1500 ft en route to Shoreham.
A month or so later she was gone.
Quite a moment!
Cheers
Paul
Warbird, I suggest you check out the “Duxford to Ban Aerobatics” Thread:
http://www.keypublishing.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14930
Cheers
Paul
Bruce
According to the AAIB report, it was doing a wingover when the left, engine lost power.
Here’s what the report says:
” The Display was nearing it’s conclusion with a flypast along the display axis from east to west followed by a steep climb into a ‘wingover’ to the right during which control of the aircraft was lost”.
I don’t think the AAIB would put that in the report if it wasn’t what happened.
As for listing the accident’s that didn’t involve warbirds that were not doing aerobatics, well it seems to prove a point that more of them have perished outside of the display environment than in it.
Of the Warbirds that have crashed at airshows I count 4 whilst performing an aerobatic display here in the UK. Whilst the loss of any of these is heartbreaking, not to mention the loss of life, the number that has been lost or damaged while not doing aero’s or displaying seems to be greater.
I agree that the average member of public who attends a display probably does not know the difference between a loop and a barrel roll and has no idea of the skills involved in flying, let alone displaying a high performance piston Warbird.
Yet there are plenty of us that do and to see someone like Ray Hanna or Stephen Grey flying a nice flowing safe aerobatic display with a gusting off crowd wind in one of their aircraft is a real pleasure.
Cheers
Paul
Hmmm
Ant, although the wingover is listed and described in Neil Williams book Aerobatics, most pilots refer to it as a positioning manouver. If you look at a WWII aircraft during a display, aerobatic or non aerobatic, the wingover is usually part and parcel of their sequence.
However, it can be as dangerous (as illustrated with the Mosquito) as any of the manouvers people normally associate as aerobatic ones. Any twin with a high single engine saftey speed has to be careful during this manouver because if the airspeed is allowed to get below the single engine saftey speed and one fails, it’s usually guaranteed to come a cropper.
Also in an aircraft such as a Mustang, the wingover is where you can find yourself in trouble as well. With the speed decreasing and the pilot pulling it can lead him straight into the buffet which, given the Mustangs dislike of being flown in this condition, isn’t such a good idea. Indeed I believe the former Spencer Flack P51 Sunny VII was a victim to this after it went stateside.
So, I still can’t see the logic behind those who say ban aerobatics in vintage planes. If all the accidents that happened at Duxford & everywhere else involving historic aircraft had been caused whilst they were doing aerobatics, then maybe I might agree.
However, as it stands I can’t really see the need.
As I pointed out in my previous post and by JasonP51D, we still aren’t sure what changes will be taking place at Duxford airshows so maybe we are all jumping the gun.
Lets hope so.
Just my 2£ worth!
Cheers
Paul
On the subject of insurance, bizarrely, one of the reasons insurance premiums have risen on the Warbirds, was a direct result of 9/11.
:confused:
I find this a bit stupid.
As Stephen Grey said, he’d like to see a terrorist that could start some of his aircraft, let alone use them in a terrorist manner!
I also recall Ely Sallingboe saying how insurance has gone through the roof for Sally B.
Cheers
Paul
Firstly we are not sure what the changes at Duxford and the implications to other shows are going to be.
Secondly, the ban Aerobatics thing does not wash with me.
For a start do you ban aerobatics for all types or just the Historics? If you say all, then you are saying goodbye to a number of major acts. I mean the Red Arrows would be grounded for one! 😉
If you say just the Historics, then you have to ask why? Are they at more risk than more modern, less rare types? Are the pilots not up to displaying such aircraft in this manner?
If you look at the accidents that have happened at Duxford over the last few years, they did involve Historics, but only two of them were doing aerobatic manoeuvres at the time. :confused:
People seem to forget that the much missed BAe Mosquito never did an aerobatic display. It had very strict limits on both speed and airframe limits (250kts max, +2 g & no intentional negative) so that kind of made an aerobatic display a no-go yet it still crashed? The Blehneim was not doing aerobatics when it had an accident yesterday. The CAF Heinkel, TFC’s first Kingcobra, PL983 and TE566 were not doing aerobatics, yet they still crashed.
Flying by it’s very nature has risks and given the way the aircraft listed above were lost, I fail to see how banning aerobatic displays will cut down on the number of accidents involving this type of aircraft.
I suppose the real question we should be asking is “Should we fly them at all”?
But that’s another story!
Cheers
Paul
RE: Duxford projects current status
AB910 is lookin very nice indeed.
Is that the work of your father Glenn?
Cheers
Paul
RE: Spitfire Pilots Notes
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 09-02-03 AT 03:13 AM (GMT)]H Ian
Can’t answer your question but maybe these people can:
They are the company that currently reprints the Pilots Notes.
The set of notes I have are a 70’s reprint that covers all types of MKIX (& the XVI) and this is the edition that Crecy currently reproduces.
Cheers
Paul
RE: Which Spitfire is this?
Hi all
One thing I noticed straight away was that it has “C Type” cannons but arranged like an E wing.
The cannon should be inboard of the stub and not outboard like it is!
Cheers
Paul
RE: Spitfire Mk.9e TE566
Just type in TE566 in any major search engine and you should come across it.
Cheers
Paul
RE: Spitfire LF Mk.16 RW382
Hi Again TCDL
Sorry to report this but RW382 (NX382RW) was all but destroyed in a crash in America (flew into high ground in bad weather) in 1998 although I understand what was left is under rebuild to fly again.
It was one of Historic Flyings first gate guardian Spits to fly and was sold I think to an American named Bernie Jackson.
Cheers
Paul