Isn’t C-17 production ending in the not-too-distant-future? Can the follow-on order afford to wait until 2017 or beyond?
About 2015 or so. Waiting for Australian and Indian orders.
Nice!
I cannot wait to see those (whatever the hell they are) wing-root bays OPEN!!!. And hopefully launch something AA.
I have little doubts about that. Can’t see what other purpose they could serve.

El correcto. Confirmed as missile bays. (Use mute if you do not like Russian music)
They maybe a structural thing for the LEX, my bet is they don’t open going by the images I’ve seen
You lose your bet sir.
Radio wave is the same no matter what band, so why would L band be better for detecting so called stealth? :confused:
Why would wavelength affect detecting stealth? :confused:
Speaking of passive sensors, every object exerts a gravitational force. Say if you have an F-22 at 100 km away, it would exert a large gravitational force given its large mass of 43,340 pounds of empty weight. This would enable it to be detected and tracked by some sort of passive gravity detection sensor. :eagerness:
That’s why kids, you should pay attention during highschool physics.
Much like the F-22, the T-50’s EW/ECM suite will have arrays distributed around the airframe (including the wingtips), certainly there’s a description that gives a strong indication it’s their AN/ALR-94. I’ll post up what I found tomorrow.
Is this somewhat related ?
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Indian Navy INAS 303 squadron patches.

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INS Teg (F45) (Talwar Class frigate) weapons test in Russia (2012)
INS Tarkash (F50) (Talwar Class frigate) weapons testing in Russia (2012)
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The last dive of INS Vagli (S42) (Vela Class/Foxtrot Class/Project 641)
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VLS Launcher testing from INS Satpura (Shivalik Class frigate) (2011)
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Sea Harrier operations aboard INS Viraat (2012)
then plz be kind of enough to post such plenty of informations that too in a civil manner.
i dont post retarded pics , if a retard cant understand the pics then it becomes a retarded pics , Strange.!!:eagerness:
Somnath, there have been pages after pages of exhaustive discussions about the things you posted. If you do an image search of any of the images you have uploaded, they will all lead back to here, type any keyword related to any aviation program, it will lead back to here. This thread, is in some ways, is running ahead of mainstream news. Some posters have a track record of being correct regarding further developments, spend some time on the board and you’ll realise who’s who. Restarting discussions on material already dismissed as trivial might not get the response you expected.
No, hopefully the White Tigers will be Re-Equipped with the Rafale or better yet the F-35B/C.:D
A bird in hand is better than two in procurement 😉
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Boeing P-8I weapons testing.

Cdr Shiraz Azad, Commanding Officer of INAS 300 “White Tigers” hits the gas and rockets out of Dabolim in fantastic late-afternoon light.
The White Tigers are the Indian navy’s operational BAE Sea Harrier squadron (INAS 552 is the training squadron) and will hopefully be re-equipped with Mikoyan MiG-29Ks over the next few years.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2310555/L/ — at Dabolim Airport.

The amazing Ka-31 of the Indian navy, this time showing off its E-810M “Oko” (Eye) radar.
Radar is an IEEE L-Band pulse-doppler radar with a 6×1 metre planar array that unfolds and rotates under the aircraft at 6rpm. It can detect fighter-sized targets out to about 200km and warships at 250km or more.
This aircraft is from the second batch of Ka-31s ordered by the Navy, and is part of INAS 339 “Falcons” based at Dabolim.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2308929/L/ — at Dabolim Airport.

An Indian Navy Ka-31 “Helix” AEW helicopter receives what appears to be a compressor wash upon landing back at Dabolim.
This aircraft is with INAS 339 “Falcons” and is piloted by Cdr NS Baberwal, the Squadron Commanding Officer.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2307573/L/ — at Dabolim Airport.

A Hindustan Aeronautics HAL HJT-16 Kiran Mk II taxiing back to its ramp at Dabolim.
The navy-blue tail indicates that this aircraft used to fly with the ‘Sagar Pawan’ (Sea Breeze) aerobatic team until remaining airframe hours on the Kiran fleet nationwide became so restricted that they had to cut all display flying so that the aircraft could be saved for training.
The Indian Navy has ordered BAE Systems Hawks to replace the Kirans and the first Navy aircraft has already flown with delivery likely within the next couple of weeks.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2303257/L/

August 18
Going with the Indian Navy today – this time a very unique Westland Sea King formation. The lead bird is a Sea King Mk.42C and the trailing aircraft is a Mk.42B.
Navy aircrews call the Sea King a “flying frigate” because it is a highly versatile helicopter, used for everything from search-and-rescue (SAR) to offensive patrols against hostile vessels both above and below the waves.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2302490/L/

August 14 ·
An Ilyushin Il-38SD of INAS 315 “Winged Stallions” departs Dabolim leaving a heavy trail of smoke. This is one of five operated by the Indian Navy from Goa.
Happy Independence Day!
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2300741/L/ — at Dabolim Airport.

August 10
One of my favourite aircraft – the unglamourous little Dornier Do 228. This aircraft is from INAS 310 “Cobras”, one of the Indian Navy’s most decorated air squadrons, and is tasked with performing electronic warfare and maritime reconnaissance.
Larger image at – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2298741/L/

This is an INAS 315 “Winged Stallions” aircraft in a brand new glossy coat of paint taxiing out early in the morning, giving me a good look at its primary sensors – radar and electro-optical pod under the nose, and ELINT array on struts above the fuselage.
Parked in the background is IN303, the second-oldest Il-38 in Indian Navy service.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2298046/L/ — at Dabolim Airport.

The Indian NAVY operates five Il-38SDs from INS Hansa in Goa, all with INAS 315 “Winged Stallions”. This one, IN305, has been recently overhauled in Russia and features a new glossy paintjob.
Larger photo at – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2296672/L/

Indian Navy’s new Mikoyan MiG-29K multirole combat aircraft.
The inboard pylons are carrying Zvezda Kh-35 / AS-20 “Kayak” anti-ship missiles (also used by IN Ilyushin Il-38SDs), while the two pylons outboard of those are carrying 20-round 57mm rocket pods for soft(er) surface targets. Just out of frame (you can see the tailfins) are Vympel R-77 / AA-12 “Adder” long-range air-to-air missiles. The MiG-29K also mounts ECM pods, as well as Vympel R-73 / AA-11 “Archer” close combat missiles.
Of course, this is just a subset of the wide range of weapons this aircraft can employ to make someone have a very bad day!
Larger image at – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2295852/L/

Here the Commanding Officer of INAS 339 “Falcons” holds short of Rwy 26 in his Kamov Ka-31 as IndiGo’s flight 6E 329 from Delhi (an Airbus A320) lands bang on time (as always).
Because Dabolim is a civil-miltary facility, it is closed to most commercial traffic through the morning, which is why most flights to/from Goa are scheduled in the afternoon/evening. The more you know…
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2294548/L/

IN725 The Indian Navy received two batches of Ka-31s. The first batch of nine is numbered IN561-569, and the second lot of five is numbered IN721-725, making this aircraft the last in the series.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2293300/L/

She might be old and beat up, but the Sea Harrier sure has her party tricks!
Here, an Indian Navy Sea Harrier FRS Mk.51 of INAS 552 “Braves” executes a short takeoff in front of the transport hangars at Dabolim.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2292755/L/

Here, a MiG-29K of INAS 303 snaps vertical right after take off. Note the main landing gear still retracting!
The Indian Navy plans to eventually operate three squadrons of this multirole aircraft, and will be the largest user of the type in the world.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2289439/L/

A Kamov Helicopters Ka-31 airborne early warning (AEW) chopper from the Indian Navy’s INAS 339 “Falcons” spins up for an afternoon departure with the squadron CO at the controls.
Larger image at – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2287483/L/

An Indian NAVY Sea Harrier FRS.51 taxing out for a morning departure.
This aircraft is currently operated by INAS 552 “The Braves” with the squadron crest (a winged torch) visible below the canopy. However, the faded leaping tiger crest near the nose indicates that IN623 once flew with INAS 300 “White Tigers”.
Larger image → http://www.airliners.net/photo/2283377/L/

Goa – Dabolim (GOI / VAGO) India, May 8, 2013
IN616 (cn B10) INAS 300 “White Tigers” bird pops a wheelie in front of the INAS 315 ramp. All FRS51 a/c have received the LUSH (Limited Upgrade Sea Harrier) treatment and now fly with Elta EL/M-2032 radars under a new radome.
The Sea Harrier was made by British Aerospace (now BAE Systems, Inc.) in the UK with India being the only foreign operator of the type. Today, the Sea Harriers are on the verge of retirement but after a limited radar/armament upgrade, are still potent combat aircraft.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2282773/L/ — at Dabolim International Airport, Goa.

An Indian NAVY Ilyushin Il-38SD ‘Sea Dragon’ maritime patrol aircraft of INAS 315 “Winged Stallions” flies overhead during a practice flight for the 60th Anniversary of Indian Naval Aviation #IndNavAir60.
Got lucky with this angle – the crew of IN305 brought her in a little higher than I expected, showing off the aircraft’s weapons bays, missile pylons (right next to the fuselage under the wings) and the bulbous radar housing. Also visible on struts above the cockpit is the unique ESM/ELINT system.
Larger image at http://www.airliners.net/photo/2276610/L/

Indian NAVY Westland Sea King Mk.42C departing off Rwy 26 at INS Hansa.
Larger image → http://www.airliners.net/photo/2271572/L/

Mikoyan MiG-29KUB – the operational trainer for the MiG-29K shipboard multirole fighter. The Indian Navy operates a mix of MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB aircraft in their first operational squadron – INAS 303 “Black Panthers”
The MiG-29KUB is functionally identical to the MiG-29K single-seat fighter, but replaces one fuselage fuel tank with a seat and life support systems for a second pilot in the rear seat.
Larger image – http://www.airliners.net/photo/2288751/L/
What do you think guys, space for two seats under that canopy? The developments in Japan are fascinating at the moment, if this does finally find it self into the JASADF. So this would be the F-15 replacement alongside the F-35 and F-2 acting as an F-4 replacement. I think not getting the F-22 has worked out as an advantage for Japan and its domestic aerospace industry.
Looks like single seater to me. Isn’t the tech demonstrator supposed to be the size of f-16 ?
Something’s cooking….
http://www.mod.go.jp/trdi/news/index.html
Google translate:-
Research strength testing machine of advanced technology demonstration unit
In a study of advanced technology demonstration machine technology research headquarters are doing, it is planned to test to confirm the static strength of the airframe.
Strength test for aircraft of the same test Preparation for
Ajai Shukla | New Delhi August 30, 2013 Last Updated at 19:32 IST
MoD backs indigenous HAL trainer, air force to visit HAL for discussionsWriting to Defence Minister AK Antony, Browne asked him to scrap the indigenous trainer.
Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is continuing to develop a made-in-India basic trainer aircraft (BTA), despite Indian Air Force (IAF) attempts to scupper the project. On Monday, a team of top IAF officers will visit Bangalore to discuss with HAL the proposal and roadmap for an Indian trainer, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer–40 (HTT-40).
Last month, IAF boss, Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, had personally targeted the HTT-40. Writing to Defence Minister AK Antony, Browne asked him to scrap the indigenous trainer, and instead buy 106 BTAs from Swiss company, Pilatus.
Already, on May 24, 2012, the IAF had bought 75 Pilatus PC-7 Mark II trainers for Rs 4,000 crore (Swiss Franc 557 million). Browne additionally demanded the purchase of 38 more trainers under an ‘Option Clause’; and then 68 more as ‘Repeat Procurement’. For Pilatus, that means contracts worth Rs 6,000 crore (Swiss Franc 848 million) without further tendering.
And for HAL it would mean an end to the HTT-40, which it has defiantly pursued, even committing Rs 150 crore of internal funds into the project.
Top defence ministry (MoD) decision-makers have serious concerns about the air chief’s request. In end-July Business Standard had revealed serious factual inaccuracies in Browne’s letter to Mr Antony. The IAF chief had argued for scrapping the HTT-40 by claiming that the PC-7 Mark II costs Rs 30 crore, far cheaper than the HTT-40. But his calculations were outdated, since the sliding rupee had raised the cost of each PC-7 Mark II (Swiss Francs 6.09 million) to Rs 40 crore. Today each PC-7 Mark II will cost over Rs 43.6 crore.
Furthermore, the IAF apparently flouted rules by changing some 12 benchmarks between March and October 2009, including parameters relating to pilot safety. These changes brought the PC-7 Mark II into compliance with IAF requirements, eventually winning the contract. The CBI enquiry into the VVIP helicopter purchase from AgustaWestland is centred on how requirements were changed.
On Aug 12, at the launching of INS Vikramaditya in Kochi, Mr Antony had bluntly stated that the HTT-40 project would continue.
Also raising eyebrows within the MoD is the alacrity with which the IAF grounded the HPT-32 trainer after a fatal crash in 2009, creating a pilot training crisis that opened the door for the purchase of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II.
The HPT-32 was labelled unsafe after 19 pilots were killed in 17 accidents over 23 years of flying, during which the HPT-32 logged 4,00,000 flight hours. That is less than one crash per year on average.
In contrast, the IAF continues to fly the MiG-21, despite a far more horrific safety record. In Jun 2003, then IAF head, Air Chief Marshal S Krishnaswamy, revealed that 98 MiG-21 crashes had occurred in 5,53,000 sorties between 1994-2003, claiming 43 lives — a record twice as bad as the HPT-32.
MiG fighters have sustained this trend over four decades. According to figures tabled in parliament by Mr Antony, 482 IAF MiGs (of all types) have crashed over the years, killing 171 IAF pilots, 8 other servicemen, and 39 civilians.
Senior MoD officials are now questioning whether the HPT-32 was deliberately grounded to make way for foreign trainers. Grounding the MiG-21 would not have led to import. It would only have increased pressure on the IAF to order the Tejas LCA in larger numbers.
On Jun 25, 2003, when asked why the IAF continued with the MiG-21 despite so many crashes, Air Chief Marshal Krishnaswamy retorted, ‘It is my responsibility to exploit every IAF aircraft to the end of its service life. I can’t just throw out serviceable aircraft, demanding modernisation.’
Today, the IAF is throwing out 110 HPT-32. The majority of them are good to continue till 2018-2024, even if they fly 250 hours per year, a reasonable average for a trainer. More than 2000 IAF pilots — including the IAF chief and his son, a Sukhoi-30MKI pilot — have learned to fly on the HPT-32.
MoD sources confirm that HAL has thrice offered to develop a successor to the HPT-32, but the IAF has stymied each proposal. The HAL Chairman in 1985, Air Marshal LM Katre, who would go on to become IAF chief, fitted a more powerful engine to the HPT-32, creating a new trainer — called HTT-34 — which obtained full certification. But the IAF inexplicably refused to accept it.
In July 1993, HAL again sent the IAF a detailed ‘Project Definition Phase Report’ for a new trainer. The IAF again did not respond. Again, in Feb 2004, HAL submitted a detailed proposal to Air Headquarters. Again there was no response.
I somehow find this entire report to be BS. Current Pak-Fa prototypes all metal ? Not sure what he means by that.
FGFA lighter, maybe, but more powerful Avionics ? If true it would mean entirely different cockpit display, man machine interface, EW suite, mission computer, navigation, communications, multi sensor warning suite etc.
Also series production aircraft in 2019 ? Isn’t it barely around the time the second stage engine starts rolling out of production line ?
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I took note on this interesting detail
This is the spearhead, or specialist if you will, vs SAM sites and AWAC’s
T-50 weapons bay size guide 🙂