Please define “Pen Pushers”. If you mean the average civil servant then you are way off base. If you mean the Senior Civil Service and Government Officials who decide policy and set the rules then fine.
Both.
Those managers down the food chain are out to empire build; those up the food chain are usually f**king inept.
Probably never will.
Propfans are just too darn loud apparently. So loud, they’ll be unusable it todays noise restricted commercial aviation world.
Thats a solved problem.
It was the interaction of the blade tips was the issue – kinda like a helicopters two rotors.
The solution is pretty simple – make the second blade row have a decently smaller diameter than the leading row.
Compare a picture of a 1980s propfan to a modern test one.
Trust me, they are coming.
The more pen-pushers that arrive in to “oversee” things, the more the prices will rise.
If those that made these awful decisions were sacked, then the problem would quickly go away. But, since the silly service are afraid to sack anyone incompetent, it continues…
I love people who can tell so much via their eyes. I also love trolls.
We picked that particular bogey up some time ago TR….

Got a good point there but then we haven’t heard much about them lately have we?
You will 😉
With the price of oil skyrocketing I was wondering if anyone else thinks that pretty soon the Airline Industry may start reverting back from Jets to Props.
Propfans is the future, not turboprops. 🙂
And no Amiga, I can’t be bothered searching through thousands of posts
Then don’t make the claim if you are unable to back it up.
Where was this said? When? By Whom?
You are talking out of your hole, and you know it.
If the diversion of engineering resources towards the 767 tanker either:
(a)slows down the 777 replacement or update to compete with A350-1000 by 2-3 years.
(b)slows down the 737 replacement by 2-3 years.
Then Airbus will have lost a minor skirmish as a precursor to winning a major battle.
If Boeing goes broke, the government won’t save it.
Yes… like GM and Chrysler.
Pull the other one would ya. 😉
which was said to be ready to go on prototype number 2.
Please go find and reference where this was “said”.
From looking at close up images i’d say with a great deal of certainty that this jet was hand built. What happened to the robotic assembly line? Any pics of them being put together?
Why oh why would you build an evolving prototype robotically?
Why would you even start to build an assembly line for a 1 or 2 piece production run.
Are you trolling, or do you honestly know very little about the industry?
Interesting description…. “win”. Makes it sound like it’s a competition between Boeing and Airbus when in reality this order was only ever going to be an A320 order.
Well…. I would have said more a competition between Airbus and Bombardier.
Lufthansa already has some CSeries on the order book – interesting they didn’t go for more.
Because this plant would have just done the final assembly, which means that the components would have still been built in the Eurozone
Really?
Seahawk – you are far more informed than that. Go take a run through the A330’s systems and see how many are built in the USA.
Also, I’m sure the boom & hose/drogue suppliers Cobham may object to being relocated to the “Eurozone” without any notice. 🙂
As the old saying goes …. be careful what you wish for!
Boeing had enough on their plate with 737 upgrade/replacement, 787 & 747 cert and 777 upgrade. I rather suspect polishing the aeronautical turd that is a 767 with underwing hose pods may prove to be the proverbial straw on the camels back!
Boeing won, Washington & Kansas won, America lost!
Ooooh. I never even considered that!
Wonder what this will do for the 737RS…
Looks like Boeing have a real decision to make soon – counter the A350 or counter the A320 NEO – ‘cos it looks like 3 programs in tandem is simply too much of a burden.
I don’t believe EADS will protest.
I also believe that the US taxpayer should be extremely happy; as a result of the EADS bid, Boeing have had to supply tankers to the USAF at a much better cost than the original farcical lease deal.
Now – ALL eyes will be on one thing – will Boeing be able to deliver, or will there be substantial cost and or time overruns?
[I know what I’m betting on…]