Read that again, the AESA antennas that it is talking about are the ESM antennas, not the MUCH larger AESA antenna of the radar unit (and it’s associated transmission & processing power).
Oh, I guess you better tell that to the French airforce….
btw, The pilot does not have to “turn his head” to attack a target, just select it in the threat list, confirm pK, and fire.
So the unique all-seeing helmet isn’t actually a big game changer at all then? More nice to have?
So pilot will have to turn their head 180° to see whats behind on their HMS???
Well, for it to be any different from a conventional HUD, HMD or radar display, they’re gonna have to crank their head around no?
and presenting the information to the pilot in a 360* view that is unique. How long it will stay that way remains to be seen, but come on, give some credit to the revolutionary nature of it. For the first time, a pilot will not have to multi-task between hud, radar display, and HMS (if equipped) to form a tactical picture of the fight.
Yeah, instead the pilot will have to crank their head around to see whats behind them and then continue to maintain the spatial awareness to fly the aircraft.
How well did that (very) reclined seat work on the F-16? It worked so well they decided to abandon it for all subsequent aircraft.
It has its uses, certainly yes. A paradigm shift in air combat? Ha. Barely a ripple. Its a niche.
Get back to me when someone else can do that.
https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/Fiche%20Rafale%20Eng.pdf
Spectra also contributes to passive tactical situation awareness, all-weather long-range
detection, identification and location of threats, within a short response time. The system’s
cutting-edge defensive measures are based on combinations of omni-directional AESA
jamming, multi-band decoying and evasive manoeuvres, as well as on state-of-the-art
technologies such as Digital Radio Frequency Memory(DRFM) signal processing.
What is new and unique was mentioned earlier in the discussion about DAS, targets are passed off from one sensor to another seamlessly on F-35 (theoretically). They are classified, given a symbol for pilots ID and tracked throughout battlespace. Pilot is aware of where friendlies and bogeys are in a potentially chaotic situation where a moments hesitation can kill you or at least limit your response time.
The F-22 does this.
The EF does this.
The Rafale does this.
Not seeing “new and unique”.
You think there’s no way of knowing just how much fuel is in an flying aircraft from remote observations?
Oh there is – but not from a single tactical aircraft that has not been devoted to shadowing said adversary without use of off-board sensors.
edit: Which I suppose, is sensor fusion… not in an immediate sense, but in a temporal sense.
Which is not new and ot specific to F35. See Tragedac program for ex, raw data from sensors will be fused in a patrol (and not only tactical situations). I agree it is new in a US context as compared to “legacy” planes.
But… but… but….
Its got its own acronym and powerpoint slide… :very_drunk:
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The idea that other aircraft don’t use their sensors in a combined fashion to ascertain a picture that any sensor might not compile correctly on their own is quite frankly insulting to the intelligence of the designers of those other aircraft.
Do you folks honestly think that the Russians or French have never thought of slaving the IRST over to doublecheck on a ghost return from a radar? Are you f__king nuts?!?
A more important aspect of sensor fusion is determining your enemys’ intent and if he has the ability to adversely impact your mission objectives.
The former is attempting to predict the enemy’s thoughts and worse, assuming the enemy’s disposition. That is not something that can be done in mere software code. What happens if a concealed (as you know… armies like to hide things for the shear fun of it) decides to pop up the radar when your 15 miles out from your IP?
The latter is not so much fusing the data of various sensors as interpreting the minutia of the overall dataset (which admittedly, is far more extensive than the data from one sensor alone) to add detail to the picture… but it can only go so far. For example, just how much fuel is in that MiG-31?
In summary. To attempt to write software to achieve the former is foolish and to achieve the latter is challenging but has its uses.
GCI is a tiny part. Think harder about actions which make airspace A2AD.
Its an example.
I’m not going to break out the crayons and draw the whole picture for you.
If you really think that everyone is going to be so mindless as to run around in their aircraft making superfluous EM emissions then that’s you (and the USAF’s) issue. Just don’t be surprised when that little assumption jumps up and bites you on the b_lls.
It’s more complex than that. Fused avionics means that each piece of the puzzle (radar, ESM, IRST, etc) shares it’s final data solution (ie a plane track, a emitter location, etc).
The F-35’s APG-81 and ESM take this a step further by sharing and cross analyzing the raw data to come up with a unified solution. This allows pieces of a partial solution, that would likely be dismissed on their own, to be recognized for what it is and properly classified.
Are you taking the **** spud?
If it was the former paragraph “sensor fusion” could be knocked up by a couple of grad programmers in a couple of weeks. :rolleyes:
Everyone is superimposing raw sensor returns and using the data for subsequent evaluation and if require directed revisit from directed sensors… then presenting as a single unified picture.
That is sensor fusion at its most basic!
The tricker bit is (for instance) combining that raw sensor data (emission parameters and return parameters) with the raw sensor data (emission parameters and return parameters) of your 3 wingmen. An airborne multi-static radar if you will…
[thats before taking into account disparate sources of information from dissimilar aircraft, ground stations, soldiers on the ground, satellites etc]
It means that the ESM and the radar are connected via fiberoptic cables which allow them to function as a unified machine on a hardware & software level.
The whole spectrum of mission specific avionics are supposed to operate as a unified machine on both levels.
That’s what this “sensor fusion” malarky is all about.
I’m alluding to F-35 flying in an offensive role against DCA, any DCA including PAKFA or J-20. Think of what DCA has to deal with operationally in its own A2AD airspace and you will understand how easy they are to track.
So, ground controllers making global broadcasts requiring no response will require emission on behalf of the defending aircraft? Good stuff.
I don’t think that communicating between aircraft or using data links constitutes 1980’s technology
The Swedes were doing it in the 60s…
ASQ-239 is only an enigma to those without the initiative to learn about its capabilities and why it costs more than all the other sensors.
If you aren’t emitting any EM, then the only way to detect is via IR. No amount of bluster will change that basic fact.
[Unless you are actually trying to suggest the -239 can detect electrical activity within the circuitry of the target aircraft?]
largely discredited thanks to the Australian Parliamentary farce presentation with APA.
Meh. Politicians make careers out of lying and twisting the truth.
I wouldn’t place much weight on their criticisms (or praise) of anyone.