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  • in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2332699
    Amiga500
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    I don`t think it is only political issue. Dimensions of the internal bays may also pose a problem. Much heavier load needs additional strengthening plus you could have issues with CG.

    The F-22 can definitely carry 2 JDAM internally + sidewinders in secondary bays. That is exactly the same as the F-35.

    There is even the possibility it can carry 2 JDAM + 2 AIM-120 + sidewinders.

    That puts it up on F-35.

    We don`t know the specific fuel consumption of the 117 engine, but if you look at AL-31FM2, they are much powerful than basic AL-31F, yet they have lower specific fuel consumption.
    Sergey Bogdan also stated that 117S engine has less thrust losses at height compared to AL-31F. That way you can cruise at higher altitude where you have less drag which translates to lower fuel consumption.
    We also don`t know if the PAK FA is dragier or not than SU-27, but with internal weapon bays we can be quite sure that it has less drag in combat cruise.

    Too many unknowns to say of course.

    It is pretty safe to say it will have more range than the F-22, its not quite so safe to say it will have more range than Su-27.

    in reply to: F-35 News thread. Part Deux #2333137
    Amiga500
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    I was in the UK aerospace industry during the 1960s, but the only one I can remember was the Blue Steel, a nuclear-armed missile stand-off that was so unreliable that bomber crews accepted that in combat many would have had to be released as free-falling bombs.

    Other than Blue Steel, the UK had only the French AS.30 and the Martel that it developed in conjunction with France.

    No matter how effective it was (or was not as the case may be) – it was an answer to a claim that all European countries were ~ a decade behind the USA in fielding standoff AG weapons.

    [Given the examples named in the original post, it almost seemed like the poster had the idea that the idea of stand off weaponry was only invented post 2000!]

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2333147
    Amiga500
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    Comparing the T-50 aircraft with an American fifth-generation fighter F-22 “Raptor”, he said that our T-50 came later, so all the shortcomings that were identified from the Americans, were taken into account when creating a Russian aircraft.

    Interesting.

    IMO there are three areas of the F-22 that aren’t ideal, one of which is political.

    1. Ongoing maintenance issues.
    2. Smaller than ideal fuel fraction/less than ideal range*.
    3. Limited A2G capability (the political problem).

    *For instance, the MiG-31 can fly faster for further than the F-22, despite the much vaunted supercruise.

    Obviously, the 3rd issue is not technical, so can be discarded – if the USAF/LM wanted to solve it, they would.

    The 2nd issue, well, since the PAK-FA is supposed to replace the Flanker, one can assume it has a very large fuel fraction. With bigger thirstier engines, that might not translate into more range than the Flanker, but it should be more than the F-22.

    The 1st issue… hmmm. Many of the F-22’s problems are surface related, more specifically surface join related, bad joins affecting RCS. The PAK-FA has went with big panels as an attempted fix, there may also have been compromises made for ultimate VLO in an attempt to keep the thing easier to maintain. Which would be a very Russian approach.

    To expand further on the last point – if there was a large scale shooting war – yes, in a perfect world, the F-22 would have significantly lower RCS in most situations. However, in the real world, there isn’t always time and facilities to maintain things as well as they might. As a result the F-22 may suffer more and actually have comparable, if not worse RCS than PAK-FA in many situations.

    It is mostly speculation on my part – I have no data from either program to back that up. But, I do recall reading multiple reports on F-22 panel fit problems and their effect on VLO properties.

    in reply to: Airbus A380 At 50 #534373
    Amiga500
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    Calling me dishonest? Really? wow.

    Yep. Even more convinced of it after this post.

    I recently read Joe Sutters’ book and found his arguments why Boeing didn’t stretch the upper deck the whole length compelling.

    So you learn Joe Sutter has a book, you claim to have read it, claim there are compelling arguments* for not stretching the upper deck and yet you didn’t name any.

    Right. Dead on.

    *Oh, and I didn’t mention Mach-Area rule in the prior post as with modern 3D CAE techniques allowing detail refinement of the wing fairing it isn’t the obstacle as it once was. If that is where your heading with this, you are barking up the wrong tree.

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2333279
    Amiga500
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    The patent does exist, and supposedly the reason why the ‘stage ii’ engine will have so much more thrust than the 117 is because the square nozzle design will cut its effective output by 10-20 percent.

    Those numbers are in the right ballpark (for circular to rectangular nozzles).

    in reply to: F-35 News thread. Part Deux #2333280
    Amiga500
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    GPS-guided, with FPA IR seekers, two-way datalinked? I don’t think so.

    So is definition of “long range AG guided weapon” now like supercruise?

    Changes with the f**king wind direction to suit the argument?

    Ridiculous :rolleyes:

    in reply to: F-35 News thread. Part Deux #2333633
    Amiga500
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    The US had long range AG guided weapons at least a decades before Europeans (SLAM ER-250 km, JASSM-370km, JASSM ER 900 km); yet they still invest in F 35.

    Oh I wouldn’t say that.

    The British were developing stand off munitions in the 50s and fielding them in the 60s…

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2334174
    Amiga500
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    My point is, aerospace engineers don’t set the design requirements/specifications of new combat aircraft (they are usually not qualified to) – they fulfill them.

    Well… John Boyd was an engineer (and of course a combat pilot).

    Probably the most famous man in history for outlining requirements/specifications for combat aircraft.

    If anything, engineers are the most qualified for specifying requirements as we are best at reducing the problem to numerical parameters which can be quantified. Without quantification you have nothing. In addition, engineers are more in touch with research relevant to the area – so will be able to better project what the developed product will have to deal with.

    For example, what is the point in a pilot from the gulf war specc’ing an aircraft to meet requirements he/she has drawn up based on their experience in the gulf war? Would they be expecting Saddam to invade Kuwait again?

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2334216
    Amiga500
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    Could I ask posters to refrain from quoting the clown?

    It is adversely affecting the effectiveness of my ignore list. Thanks. 🙂

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2334221
    Amiga500
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    The only thing I may give you some basis for carrying on talking is that you haven’t been clear with what you did down to the smallest detail.

    Do that and then we’ll talk.

    Yeah, ‘cos he/she is gonna write a full technical report for a post on a ‘net forum.

    Catch yourself on. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2334225
    Amiga500
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    That would not be his decision to make, it would made by the people paying for the plane. Does Sukhoi’s chief designer have any aerial combat experience?

    Aside from the obvious question of… WTF does combat experience have to do with his/her ability to engineer?!?

    There is of course the other question of; does any pilot in a VLO aircraft have aerial combat experience? (in a VLO aircraft)

    in reply to: F-35 News thread. Part Deux #2335112
    Amiga500
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    “Getting to fly the F-35 for the first time was quite an experience, the aircraft was easy to fly and felt very solid. In my opinion, the aircraft flies like a cross between an Eagle and a Viper on steroids”

    It flies like a bigger heavier Viper? Not sure if that is favourable or not.

    in reply to: F-35 Vs. PAK FA? #2335115
    Amiga500
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    I do not speak/read Russian, so cannot interpret his article.

    However the excel sheet was quite clear!

    RCS = RCS/ RCSmin

    ***not quite sure what the differential is between RCS and RCS in cell row 933 and cell row 956***

    RCSmin = (Frontal area/2)(No. consoles”/6)(coating)(form)(plasma)

    ‘ What is EPR?
    ” What is number of consoles?

    Either way – you are assuming factors for RAM coating, shape and plasma effects. Assumed factors that have little basis in engineering analysis.

    in reply to: Airbus A380 At 50 #534726
    Amiga500
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    You can infer whatever you like. Double deckers are a bad idea……Joe Sutter and his team thought so in 1966 and not much has changed since.

    Now, now, that is being very disingenuous with the truth. In fact – it is blatantly dishonest.

    The original 747 design was double deck, however it was abandoned due to concerns over cargo capacity (loading door size – hence the original ‘hump’ for the nose door) and passenger evacuation.

    If the upper deck was such a bad idea, why did Boeing stretch it (more than once) over the life of the 747? 🙂

    Yes, it would appear the cargo reason for Boeing’s rejection of the idea is solid – compare A380F to 747-8F. However the passenger evac issue has been satisfactorily solved.

    There are ~255 odd A380s on order, there are ~35 747-8Is on order. That is not indicative of an intrinsic problem with double-deckers… no matter how much your preconceptions wish it to be so.

    You can argue about the large aircraft market size, at least there you have foundations for something. You cannot argue that the 380 is a failure because it is double deck, as it is clearly out-selling the segment competition.

    in reply to: Pak-Fa news thread part 20 #2335366
    Amiga500
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    Otherwise, apparently but uncertainly, a significant small turn radius than MiG-35 with obviously faster speed performed by PAKFA according to the video presented.

    Looks to me like a coordinated turn emile. [At around 75 deg bank – which would be around 4g.]

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