Um… i think it’s better to just ignore the likes of jackjack

Ahhh, yes. I remember that clown.

He’s regularly on the aviation week website talking absolute sh!te Probably a school kid that suffers from severe ****/elbow syndrome.

Yep, we should all listen to you, only you have the knowledge, not those dumba**ed F-35 pilots! :rolleyes: You couldn’t make this s**t up :diablo:

You still aren’t reading what I am saying are you?

IF YOU BELIEVE WITHOUT QUESTION THE WORDS OF ANYONE WHO STANDS TO LOSE THEIR JOB OVER WHAT THEY SAY THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

I can break out the crayons if this is still too complex for you…

Were the AIM-120s fired in pairs? That would automatically reduce the PK to 50% immediately, would it not?

Now your asking.

No idea, my memory isn’t that good! 😮

I do think I recall multiple shots at the same target with no hits – dunno if those were simultaneous launches though which would be indicative of Pk <=50% elsewhere….

I suppose that you actually think the people should be listening to you instead,

Rather than 3 direct employees of the F-35 program that stand to lose their jobs if they do not toe the line?

I would like to think any rational person wouldn’t take the word of anyone effectively speaking under that threat without cross-checking what they are saying.

Of course, you, you’d believe anything.

I note you haven’t actually provided one bit of useful information* to any of the threads you have frequented yet. Not overly surprising since you don’t have any knowledge to impart.

*Unless you count a PR video as useful. Not much in the way of quantitative information in there so I would consider it nigh-on-useless.

Yes… I hear pilots slate their incoming aircraft all the time…

So. You have:

F-35 test pilot from BAe systems
F-35 test pilot from the RAF
The UK national deputy for JSF

[no vested interest there then – none of them stand to lose out by declaring the F-35 not fit for purpose – nosiree]

Declaring the F-35 is great for day 1 because it has:
“day one capability, especially through stealth, and 5th gen piece and also interoperability”

This 5th gen definition keeps on getting fuzzier and fuzzier. What is it these days?

[Oh, and I guess you folks missed the bit about not being able to replace Typhoons when the airframe hours are expended with Typhoons as they will no longer be getting built in 2025-2030…]

1. Its a cheap and easy way of doing it and not particularly unusual in the aerospace industry. On many occasions highly classified aircraft suitably covered up have been transported in broad daylight.
2. It might not be that easy to remove the wings, without knowing the general structure of the airframe under the camo tarp we can’t really judge fully why they were forced to transport it that way.
3. Depends on how heavy it is stripped out, the Hip is really a medium lift type. The Mi17 has a sling load of around four tons whilst the Z-8 about 5 tons. It might well be its too heavy even gutted! Also there is a far greater risk of damage to the airframe sling loading it.
4. Not an unusual scenario within the aerospace industry. Sometimes the assembly plant hasn’t the proper facilities for test flights.

As for the unusual transport angle, to my eye it might well be done that way to make it easier to transfer the airframe off the truck.

1. Well, if they want the world to see something – there is no better way of doing it than pretending to hide something.
2. Indeed – which points towards a final destination that does not do assemblies… otherwise the wings would have been put on there.
3. Damage is possible. Fair enough.
4. Hmmmmmm. Very unconvinced by that. Proper test flights yes, ok. First flight from assembly plant airstrip and subsequent ferry flight to dedicated test facility, no.

Any thoughts on the different designs?

Well… you could hypothesize that the wing area has reduced in comparison to both Tanaris/Neuron. Possibly aspect ratio has increased though.

You could infer a number of things from that.

However, to me it looks like the back end of Neuron stuck onto the front end of Tanaris with a bit of forebody extension.

I certainly wouldn’t read too much into it.