not going to sell 30 A380s this year as Leahy promised, more disappointment:
Yeah, well, if it means “motormouth” Leahy doesn’t get a bonus… I’ll not be too disappointed! 😀
Still doesn’t influence my long term view – the 380 will turn enough sales over time to make a decent profit.
There is still a good 9 years of backlog (at 20/yr) – so its not as if they have difficult decisions to make regarding line closures or anything.
Any chance European trade unions will be looking to “punish” Airbus in some way?
Probably.
Would only speed up the move IMO.
Via Comet @aviaforum
WOW!
What a whiffletree!
I need to send this to some stresser head mates!! 😀
Thus, the new factory.
I had considered the 320 line to be largely supplier limited, rather than assembly. But, I reckon now your 100% correct.
I see now aviation week is leading with “Airbus plans big expansion of US supplier base”:
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_07_11_2012_p0-475640.xml
Which would obviously remove the supplier ceiling.
I wonder if the Alabama plant will increase the standing of Airbus at Delta?
Probably depends on slot availability.
IMO – I think the 320NEO will be a better plane by most useable measures than 737MAX – mostly due to the bigger engine.
However, limited delivery slots will force airlines to take the MAX (and maybe more importantly for the longer term future; the CSeries).
The USAF needed a large number of frames, for the same amount of money they could buy proportionally more 767s than A330’s.
IMO that remains to be seen. One was essentially an off-the-shelf buy with virtually zero risk, the other essentially an off-the-hard-drive buy with loads of risk. 🙂
(This could be construed as Boeing bashing JB)
To Amiga500 and Bmused55: Thanks for proving my point. 🙂
I fail to see how deriding a USAF decision is Boeing bashing…?
The maker of the aircraft in question is incidental to the point – which is that once again, the USAF have made a decision on poorly considered short term goals.
A decision there are no doubt regretting now
Not sure.
In my opinion, they’ve made pretty much exactly the same mistake picking the B767 ahead of the A330 for the tanker.
When KC-46 is finished, the 767 line will die (regardless of Boeing bulls**t to the contrary). The line has essentially been operating at 1/3 capacity compared to the output of say, the year 2000. The backlog is virtually all cargo variant -300F.
The A330 will probably still be getting built 15 years from now (given that Airbus are adding new weight variants to make it a more viable 777-200ER replacement and the A330F will eventually get market traction).
Last year, 13 767 were delivered. 50 A330 were delivered. Which do you think will have a greater abundance (=cost) of spare parts in future? No prizes for guessing what I’m thinking. 🙂
*My favorite is someone here saying the US govt paid for the development of the 747 for use as a Space Shuttle carrier…regardless of the fact the space shuttle wasn’t approved for production until the late 70s.
And not even NASA had the money to develop a jetiliner because it needed two shuttle transports. 😀
Did they pay for its development as a cargo aircraft for CX-X?
Which lost to the C-5 on price?
Let me ask a question I’ve long wondered about….
How does a “regional Jet” by Bombardier, Embraer, or China really differ from a small DC-9/737/318?
This is gonna sound pathetic, but I think its mostly because they are categorised differently in pilot unions. Apparently its a very big thing.
One of the main stumbling blocks to Bombardier going ahead with the CSeries was having it categorised along with the CRJ/ERJ regionals rather than 737/320 family of narrowbodies.
Sounds stupid, I know (well, actually sounds really stupid), but there it is.
In terms of actual engineering – a regional jet will be designed around a higher number of flight cycles (of shorter duration) per day, than say, an A320. It results in slightly different optimisations in design giving the improved economics you mention. I think the CRJ has a slightly lower cruising speed than A320*, so the wing will give marginally better take-off/climb performance.
*regardless of what wiki says, I’ll check a few DBDs on Monday to confirm that.
Edit: Wiki is right. Mmo for 318 is 0.82 – so no speed differential.
if the DC-9 worked, why can’t the ARJ-21?
Because the DC-9 entered service in 1965 and was competitive, or better, than its contemporaries.
The ARJ-21 is supposedly significantly inferior in economics to the CRJ-900/-1000 and the ERJ-170/-190…
Never mind the CSeries and the potentially (probably) re-engined E-jets.
OK I give in. You obviously have much more insight into what happened that night than anyone else.
Running behind the lame excuse of “you weren’t there” is pathetic.
Fact is – the pilots f**ked up. Their procedures were f**ked up (not their fault) and the aircraft warnings were not clear enough, or prioritised enough (not their fault), to deal with bad pilots (their fault).
Other pilots closing ranks to protect their profession is not doing aircraft safety any favours.
Why would it? in fact, it could make the problem worse as air trapped behind the ice expands in the tube and provides even more confusing information to the aircrew.
You do realise the pitots are heated right?
So yes – while the ice remains the readouts will be faulty. (I dunno where your running with the expansion idea – the various pitots will all be reading different, i.e. wrong results – the computer will still be in alternate mode)
However, instead of dealing with supercooled liquid at 35 kft, by dropping down to 10 kft you will clear the ice and you will have working pitots.
You will also have avoided stall and kept control of the aircraft – which is (or should be) rule no. 1.
It wouldn’t have helped with the icing and indeed may have made things worse.
As you know it is -56.5 degC on an ISA day at 37kft.
At 10 kft it is approx -5.
Pull the other one if you think sustained descent isn’t going to de-ice the probes.
Descending into thunderstorms and turbulence. As I’ve said before none of us were there on AF447 so we cannot know for sure what went on that night.
So. Planes can handle thunder and turbulence. They can’t handle 35 degree AoA.
I can sum up what happened that night in 7 words. The aircrew lost control of the aeroplane.
There are procedures already. I think most of them basically boil down to: Advance throttles to position known to provide sufficient thrust to maintain airspeed above stall for known altitude.
Unfortunately (IMO) those are the wrong procedures. I believe EASA and the FAA are getting wise to it now and may issue revised guidelines sometime in future.