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  • in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2310638
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    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2335759
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    Update: The serial of the F-16D is 07-1015.

    So the current OOB of the Turkish Air Force is as follows:

    F-16

    37 x F-16C/D Block 30 (out of 43 delivered under Peace Onyx I)
    101 x F-16C/D Block 40 (out of 117 delivered under Peace Onyx I)
    72 x F-16C/D Block 50 (out of 80 delivered under Peace Onyx II)

    The above aircraft are receiving CCIP avionics upgrade under Peace Onyx III

    Peace Onyx IV aircraft:

    14 x F-16C Block 50+
    16 x F-16D Block 50+

    F-4E

    49 x F-4E 2020 Terminator (out of 54 modernized F-4E)

    16 x F-4ETM Simsek (nav&comms + structural upgrade)

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2336096
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    TurAF 142nd “Ceylan” (Gazelle) squadron got the delivery of the first aircraft under Peace Onyx IV project today. The aircraft, whose serial number is unknown to me, is an F-16D Block 50+

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2342122
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    Turkish F-4E 2020 Terminator in formation flight with two PLAAF J-11’s in late September, 2010. Image released by Turkish MoND.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread IV #2344311
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    I might have said it the wrng way: The Tranche 3 for India does not have CFT.

    It’s an official image btw; it was on the wall of Eurofighter’s hall.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread IV #2344434
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    With trials being done with dummy Paveway IVs’ concerning safe separation of the weapons early last year and a live drop of the type early this year, the ongoing conflict in Libya and RAF Typhoon pilots being currently further trained for A/G operations, maybe theres a possibility that the Paveway IV could be deployed earlier than early 2012?

    Does the current weapon systems on the Typhoon support the Brimstone, Scorpion82?

    If I had a say in it, so to speak, I’d certainly push for the Brimstone to be introduced to the Typhoon as soon as possible. It’s certainly a gem to have.

    It’s quite difficult to wonder if they’d go for the Typhoon, like Japan, I get the impression that they’re too US influenced to go for another type, especially a European one but I may be wrong about that, even a little unfair of me to say so. But if they want to shy away from US types and go for a non-US type & have a boost of their own aerospace industry, then having something to do with the Eurofighter consortium will give them the chance to do so.

    Indeed, they’ve been very generous, I think Eurofighter would still offer what you stated. Excluding the link I posted, last I heard was that the Typhoon 2020 (based on the Tranche 3 standard) was, or is being proposed to Turkey with CFTs’, AESA, TVNs’, DASS, MIDS and compatibility with extended range of advanced A/G weapons including Storm Shadow. Apparantly the same variant is currently being proposed to the UAE, Qatar and Oman – also now featuring the ability to carry various glide-bombs and the RBS-15/III anti-ship missile. (I suspect a couple of those features are currently being proposed to India too, those being CFTs’ and Storm Shadow at least).

    Answering a question, Eurofighter official clearly stated the their MMRCA offer is not EF-2020, it is Tranche 3 (avoiding to be specific 3A or 3B) and without CFT’s.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread IV #2344445
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    Eurofighter (still) pushes for EF-2020 for Turkey. The illustration, displayed at the IDEF 2011 exhibition in Istanbul, shows an EF-2020 of 171 Korsanlar (Buccaneers) Squadron equipped with CFT’s, Storm Shadow, IRIS-T and Meteor.

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_xOejRpBkCvg/TcxBGfSzP_I/AAAAAAAAATs/-DEyhuEg0DM/P1010740.jpg

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    I would rather believe in a news report saying that UK is preparing to disband the whole armed forces in order to make savings from defence budget than resurrecting the Harriers.

    in reply to: SF.260 in 2011 #2355165
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    Turkish Air Force took delivery of 40 SF-260D’s assembled at Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) under license between 1990 – 1993. Around 35 – 37 of them are in service with 123rd Basic Training Squadron at Cigli, Izmir. If I recall exactly, they are going to be transferred to Air Force Academy for introductory training, replacing obsolete T-41 Mescalero’s.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2356796
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    Turkey Picks Sikorsky Helo in $3.5B Deal
    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6290870&c=AME&s=AIR

    The distribution of the 121 helicopters are as follows:

    Land forces: 20 x general purpose / SAR
    Gendarmerie: 30 x general purpose / SAR / assault
    Navy: 6 x general purpose / SAR / MEDEVAC
    Coast Guard: 6 x SAR
    Special Forces: 11 x SAR / CSAR
    Joint Staff Electronics Systems Command: 2 x ELINT / SIGINT
    Police: 20 x general purpose / special forces interdiction
    Directorate of Forestry: 20 x firefighting / transport

    The project also has an option for 98 more T-70’s.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2357588
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    Isik Phantoms are designated as RF-4ETM; the ones receiving TARP are designated as RF-4ETMG.

    The Turks better be careful…those designations are nearing the confusion of some Russian aircraft (i.e. MiG-23MLD, MiG-21PFM, etc.)….lol.

    In any case thanks for the info. Obviously it is just to fill the gap so they can operate safely until their planned retirement date, but it’s neat to see that even in 2011 the mighty Phantom continues to get some upgrades here and there.

    I’d be interested to hear about their air-to-air prowess. I assume the crews are well versed in the F-4’s A/A capabilities so it would be interesting to hear about how they put it all together in 2011, such a long time after the F-4 came about.

    Is AIM-7F or M in the TuAF inventory or do they rely on the older AIM-7E?

    What about the all-aspect variants of the AIM-9? I’ve seen the Terminator birds with the AIM-9L (or maybe M?), but are the Simsek aircraft equipped with AIM-9P or another model?

    AFAIK AIM-7’s are -if not all of them- retired.

    As for the Sidewinders, F-4E 2020s as well as Simsek F-4Es are equipped with AIM-9P3 and AIM-9M Sidewinders. The Terminator project did not involve Derby / Python integration (The follow on cancelled-Terminator II was expected to have), neither Simsek did.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2359811
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    orko, can you tell me more about the Simsek program? I’ve read bits and pieces about it, but information is a bit difficult to come by…at least on the scale that I’m interested in.

    What are the TuAF’s goals for the project? I understand it’s not as extensive as the Terminator program, and I assume the aircraft still have an air-to-air mission so are the compatible with all variants of AIM-7 and AIM-9 in the TuAF inventory? Any enhancements to the radar?

    Just curious what to make of this “new” Phantom variant.

    Also, what were the goals for the RF-4E program? It’s interesting to see them getting an update in an era where UAV’s seem to be taking over manned recce aircraft any place you look. I’m glad the TuAF is still going to be using them (as long as they are safe for the crews anyway), so I’m just curious what all new capabilities they will provide for the TuAF.

    TurAF currently has 6 F-4E squadrons: 111 and 171 with F-4E 2020, 112 with F-4E, 132, a composite weapons and tactics squadron with F-16 Block 40, F-4E and F-4E 2020s, and two reconnaissance squadrons: 113 and 173 with RF-4Es.

    After the completion of the Terminator project in 2003, a follow-on project for the upgrade of the other two frontline F-4E squadrons, 112 and 172 under Terminator II program. This program had more a-a emphasis, since the 112 and 172 were tasked with air defence (as a general rule in TurAF, squadrons with “1” as last digit has a-g, “2” are a-a missions; 161 an air defence / interception squadron, 162 a strike / interdiction one, and so on – with some exceptions)

    Terminator II project did not materialize because of high price tag offered by IAI; EF-2000 offer was rejected because of economic, technical and political reasons. F-15A/C grant / FMS was not realized either after Turkey’s rejection of support for US invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    So Turkey chose to go on its own by the experience and infrastructure gained from the Terminator project. The aim of the Simsek (Lightning) project is to keep the F-4Es of the 112 squadron (while 172 was temporarily disbanded until F-35s arrive) for a few years more.

    The program was started in February 2006 and covers structural and avionics upgrade of a total 16 F-4Es. Structural modifications extend the service life until 2014 – 2016, while avionics enhancements include integration of CDU-900Z control display units, MXF-484 radios, LN-100GT INS/GPS navigation system, Cockpit Television Video System (CTVS), AVTR and IFF Mode 4. The upgraded aircraft are designated as F-4ETM Simsek.

    Isik (Light) project on the other hand, is more comprehensive. Current operational RF-4Es of TurAF are relatively new, since they were received from Germany in early 1990s after extensive upgrade for Turkey’s support in the 1991 Gulf War.

    This project consists of two phases: Structural and avionics upgrade of 18 RF-4Es and procurement of advanced reconnaissance pods under Turkish Aerial Reconnaissance Program (TARP). Upgrade phase includes structural strenghtening of aircraft and integration of LN-100GT INS/GPS navigation system, CDU-900Z, AN/ALQ-178 RWR and advanced communications systems, produced by ASELSAN.

    The TARP programme covers the procurement of Elbit Condor II Long Range Oblique Photography (LOROP) and Elta EL/M-2060P SAR/GMTI pods plus ground stations and real time data link systems.

    Isik Phantoms are designated as RF-4ETM; the ones receiving TARP are designated as RF-4ETMG.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2361011
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    Any word on the TuAF’s Simsek program? Has it proceeded smoothly up to this point?

    Is the aircraft performing as the TuAF requires?

    It is underway at 1st Air Supply and Maintenance Center in Eskisehir; to be completed late this year. The Isik programme for the modernization of RF-4Es (to be designated as RF-4ETM) has been completed.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2361105
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    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2361446
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    Turkish F-16 Solo Aerobatics crew. The aircraft is to be revealed tomorrow:

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solo-T%C3%BCrk/113347612079785?sk=info

    http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208497_216013361748201_216012101748327_991790_2232324_n.jpg
    http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207445_216013468414857_216012101748327_991792_990852_n.jpg
    http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216264_216013478414856_216012101748327_991793_5054574_n.jpg

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