Hats off to you planeman. That’s a very impressive piece of art.
Here is another example: MRTP-33 FAC delivered to Pakistani navy.

Greece just introduced new 4500t LSTH as well.
This was likely what’s stimulating the current Turkish interest in better amphibious capability.
This statement would make sense if the two LST’s were the only projects regarding Turkish Amphibious Capability.
A vast modernization process is underway regarding amphibious & power projection capabilities, which are:
1. 1 x LPD
2. 2 x LST
3. 8 x LCT
4. 6 x CH (for the LPD, most probably CH-60 [S-70])
5. 1 x AOR
As for the AAW capability, current fleet has serious shortcomings.
On the other hand, several major projects are underway:
1. Procurement of 4 – 6 AAW FFG’s
2. Mk41 – ESSM to the first two ships of Barbaros class
3. Mk41 to 4 FFG-7’s and procurement of 2 more FFG-7’s from USA (total 10 FFG-7’s) + C&C modernization of FFG-7’s (GENESIS Project)
4. MilGem corvette and TF-100 multimission frigate projects for ASuW and ASW protection.
5. MPA aircraft (6 x CN-235MPA + 10 x ATR-72MPA), ASW Helicopters (7 + 17 S-70B-28)
6. Distant Horizon Naval C4ISR network project (most of the project is already operational)
These ambitious projects take the biggest portion from the defense budget.
Procuring an LPD does not necessarily mean it is going to be used for a landing operation to the nearby island. It constitutes to the overall power projection capability which itself is a huge force multiplyer and deterrence factor.
What’s the thinking on the replacements? LSDs of some kind, or old-style LSTs? And what size?
AFAIK, the requirement is for a more conventional LST design. But it is in the very early phase, so nothing has been finalized yet.
Agreed. IIRC the proposed larger Italian future LHD is to enable out of area use.
Something along the lines of the RSNs Endurance class LPDs would probably meet Turkeys needs. About 6000 tons light, 8500 tons full load.
For the LPD project, the displacement is said to be around 15,000t.
The Italian offer:

The dokdo class is larger and I think ideal for turkey. It will be cheaper than european yards. Other than this ship which can be used as LPH korea can also build LPD’s for turkey to replace the county class LST.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRI_Makassar_class
In fact Turkey also has a project for the production of two LST’s to replace the County Class L401 Ertugrul and L402 Serdar.
If Turkey does buy the Dokdo class, I think Fincantieri will be unhappy. Aren’t they the other main contender?
Correct. Italians reportedly came up with a very attractive offer, including the amount of local participation.
Turkey Goes Shopping For the Big Ship
Turkey is buying a big deck amphibious ship, and like they usually do, they are looking to South Korea to build it. We discussed this a bit last July, when we obtained the specifications desired by the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries. At the time we thought it was pretty clear Turkey would seek the Dokdo class. It appears our assumptions at the time were on the mark.
Defense officials from South Korea and Turkey opened five-day talks over bilateral defense cooperation in Ankara, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said Tuesday.
High on the agenda is South Korea’s cooperation on Turkey’s shipbuilding program to develop amphibious large-deck landing ships and tank landing ships, a DAPA official said. Turkey also wants to purchase the South Korean Army’s K-10 ammunition re-supply vehicles, he said.
The Dokdo class carries 720 marines, 6 tanks, 10 trucks, 7 AAV’s, three field artillery pieces, 10 helicopters, and two LCACs. The Dokdo class is both wider and longer than the SPS Príncipe de Asturias, and can be fitted with a ski jump to support the F-35B.
If Turkey does buy the Dokdo class, it will join Italy, France, and Spain among the Mediterranean Sea nations with modern amphibious aviation vessels. The expeditionary trends for naval forces continues.
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/05/turkey-goes-shopping-for-big-ship.html
The only equipment I would put on LCS is a self-destruct mechanism…
orko 8, did you manage to get a stern pic of the P28? I am curious if it has a towed array or not…
Unfortunately no. The model was placed in such a corner of the stand that it was almost impossible to look at it from stern.
Have any of you considered the possibility that it has some AShMs but that these are launched from the torpedo tubes (they look like 533mm heavyweight DP tubes, not the 324mm ASW tubes, and so should be able to handle Klub-S variants)? :diablo:
Excuse me if I’m missing some cynicism here since caffein in my blood had dropped radically, but that’s a hard to imagine, let alone consider, way of launching surface-to-surface missiles; especially for a ship which has a much orthodox design with minimum or no innovation.
Compare e.g. Neustrashimy > no visible AShM launchers
AShM launchers are not visible on Neustrashimy, because there is none. The ships are fitted-but-not-with Kh-35 Uran’s.
That design is not indigenous its the falcon corvette design bought from Nevesbu. I don’t see why IN needs OPV. The P-28 in the model is as good as any OPV.
Falcon? This Falcon?

There design is indigenous based on the OPV that are also being built. do not think any russian firm was consulted for this unlike P-17 or P-15A.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/NOPV.html
By resemblance, I ddn’t mean consulting or any other organic relationship with Russian shipyards or designs. What I meant was rather a philosophical level, i.e way of thinking..
As for the mission of the ship, I think Victor is right. It seems this corvette is designed to operate under protection against air and surface threats, most probably at littoral waters around important strategic locations (such as trade lines, harbors, bases etc) and protection of convoys, fleet groups.
orko 8, thanks for posting those pics. I believe those are the first pics of a physical model of the P28 on the net.
One of my biggest criticism against the P28 is its lack of guided weapons, aside from the Barak.
What are those launchers adjacent to the main mast?
Thanks Victor. Unfortunately there were no brochures nor posters except the model itself about the corvette.
I think you are talking about these (on the attachment). They seem to be some kind of decoy launchers, I think.
The overall design resembles Soviet corvette trends, I think. It does not seem so innovative, IMHO.
Hi broncho,
This model was on display in Gardean Reach’s stand in DSA 2008 exhibition last week, at Kuala Lumpur.
Oh I know, but since the newer talwars are comming with brahmos, I assume navy would want the P-17’s also to have them. There will be enough klubs on the older talwars, kilos and P-28’s.
Where are the Klub launchers on Project 28 installed? I could not see them on the model displayed at DSA2008:


Because the current strategy and doctrine of Turkish Navy, for the foreseeable future I might add, highlights amphibious operations, littoral warfare and dominance in Eastern Med region. The studies in mid 90’s concluded that fixed wing aircraft and aircraft carriers are overkill for such requirement; from both operational and economic perspectives.
I think this will be more helpful: