1x 76mm oto (stealth mount), interchangeable with NavLAR (2×18 35-45km LAR 160 rockets)
4×8 12km VL Barak (possibly 50km Barak II/NG), interchangeable with 4 Harpoon plus 3 Gabriel
1x Typhoon DSA (Decoys and Surface to Air Missiles Launchers) – hangar
2x MiniTyphoon SSM (12,7mm, 2 Spike-LR, EO-fcs)
2x Typhoon G (25mm cannon, 2x Spike ER, Toplite)
2 Protector Unmanned Naval Patrol Vehicle with MiniTyphoon SSM (12,7mm, 2 Spike-LR, EO-fcs)
2 ASW helo’s e.g. Dauphin or 2 Attack helo’s e.g. AH-64 Longbow Apache.
UAV
From the armament configuration all I see is a Sa’ar V vol.2
Does anybody have information on Turkey’s future requirements for Aviation Capable ships i.e. Landing ship with dock (LSDH) or other types.
Turkey currently has an LPD project which is on RfI stage.
The project covers the production of an LPD which is capable of carrying a battalion sized unit along with 4 LCM’s, 2 LCVP’s, 1 commander vehicle, 1 RHIB and 27 AAV’s.
The ship is expected to be ~15,000t class and Fincantieri design is the most favorite candidate. Schelde (Enforcer) will not participate in the project according tro their official whom I talked to at DSA2008.
Turkish naval aviation currently has:
2 x AB-212A
9 x AB-212N (out of 12; 3 x w/o)
3 x AB-212E
7 x S-70B-28 SeaHawk (out of 8; 1 x w/o. Plus 17 on order, deliveries to start next year [?])
6 x CN-235MPA (mission systems are being fitted out)
10 x ATR-72MPA (on order)
There is currently a project for the procurement of utility helicopters including 6 helicopters for the LPD. The decision is expected to be made this year (most probably late July or August). Sikorsky with S-70 is the favorite candidate against Agusta Westland with AW-139.
The 8 AH-1W Super Cobra’s (out of 10; 2 x w/o during operations against PKK) of Army Aviation which were originally built for USMC but bought by Turkey for urgent requirement against PKK in mid 90’s, maybe, I underline “maybe”, will be transferred to Amphibious Brigade after some upgrade when T-129 gains operational status after ~2012. This is just a “what if” for the moment, given thought of in the context of the vast modernization process of the Amphibious Brigade.
Once upon a time in mid 90’s, feasibility of a possible procurement of alight aircraft carrier (like Invincible or Principe de Asturias) was analyzed and shelved (forever).
Again, once upon a time, procurement of 20 x F-35B JSF S/TOVL aircraft along with 100 F-35A’s was thought, but shelved (forever) as well.
Looks to me like the missile corvette has 4 single Mk41 cells forward of the bridge, which would imply another 2 are on each side of the Goalkeeper, making for a total of 8 cells and a loadout of 32 ESSM.
At first glance I also thought the same, but the project manager said they were Mk48.
RAF Eurofighter damaged in US landing incident
By Craig Hoyle
A Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon has been damaged in an incident while landing at the US Navy’s China Lake weapons test range in California, the UK service has confirmed.
Believed to be assigned to the RAF’s Coningsby-based 17 Sqn Operational Evaluation Unit, the aircraft “sustained damage on landing,” the RAF says. The pilot did not eject from the aircraft, which came to rest on the runway, and was not injured in the mishap.
“The damage is still being assessed,” says an RAF source, who adds that a Board of Inquiry has already been established to investigate the cause of the accident. The service’s remaining fleet of almost 50 Typhoons – including aircraft providing permanent quick reaction alert duties for the southern UK from Coningsby – has not been grounded, and “there is no suggestion of airworthiness being compromised,” the source adds.
This is the second landing incident to have affected the RAF’s Typhoon force, with a two-seat aircraft operated by its 29 Sqn Operational Conversion Unit having sustained damage in early 2006 after its nose wheel failed to deploy.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/04/28/223336/raf-eurofighter-damaged-in-us-landing-incident.html
The one in the red box seems like some sort of avionics or other subsystem cooling intake.
Maybe the other one is a chaff/flare dispenser:confused:
4? AFAIK Shardul class consists of 3 ships.:confused:
Come on, 6x250kg that’s 1500kg, pretty ok for a Su-22,
I’m not so sure when drag must also be taken into account.
6 x LGB, 2 x IR AAM on wingtips, Litening pod underneath the chin, even CFT’s on a good ol’ Su-22!!! eek!! Too much “what-if” packed, even for April 1st 😉
Thank you very much 🙂
Lol!I dont know scooter…;)
Meanwhile some news..
Singapore and Indian navies conduct joint missile exercisedpa
SINGAPORE — India and Singapore’s navies conducted a 14-day exercise using combined surface-to-air missile live firing for the first time, Singapore’s
defense ministry said Saturday.
Held in the Bay of Bengal from March 17 to March 29, the event has been held annually since 1994 and started with anti-submarine warfare exercises.
The Singapore-India Maritime Bilateral Exercise (SIMBEX) “has grown in scope and complexity, evolving to advanced naval water exercises covering the air, surface and sub-surface dimensions,” a statement said.
The Singapore navy sent a frigate, two missile corvettes and a landing ship tank. The Indian navy deployed a destroyer, a frigate, two corvettes, two missile boats, two fast-attack craft and one offshore patrol vessel, together with a submarine.
Both navies also deployed maritime patrol aircraft.
In addition to SIMBEX, the statement said both navies have regular interactions including exchange programs and courses.
Ermm Do we know the participating ships’ names?
Orko_8 will the F-35 still replace most of Turkey’s F-16 fleet, especially given that deliveries that will roughly start in 2014 are likely not to be finished until about 2024/25 (current proposed schedule, but probably open to delay).
By the time F-35’s are entering service (mid 2010’s), CCIP programme will be about to be copncluded. CCIP programme is expected to be finished by ~2016, (first prototype to fly 2009, IOC 2011). So by, 2025 the fleet will be almost fresh (well, maybe except Block 30’s).
By the time F-35 deliveries are expected to finish (116 a/c about mid 2020’s) F-16’s will still remain in service.
On the other hand, F-4E 2020’s will remain in service until 2020 (hence the codename), but F-4E’s will be phased out bu 2010’s, they still have very low flying hours.
Unmodernized F-4Es to the F-35? I don’t care whose generational yardstick you’re using, that’s quite a jump.
Logan Hartke
TuAF currently has:
211 F-16C/D BLock 30/40/50 (Block 40/50’s to 50+ standard, Bock 30’s limited mod under CCIP)
+ 30 F-16C/D Block 50+
52 F-4E 2020 (modernized under Terminator project, to remain in service until 2020’s)
around 40 serviceable F-4E’s (112 and 172’s sq; very very low serviceability)
18 RF-4E’s (mod. under Isik project).
43 N/F-5A/B 2000 (used for LIFT)
So by looking this force structure, it is easy to see what would be the first candidate for replacement when F-35 arrives…
Wow!. This is great news.
Turkey is fast becoming one of the strongest airforces around. Are they still getting the Typhoon for the AtoA role?
Unfortunately no, and won’t in the foreseeable future. Alenia came up with a really good offer covering 40 – 80 aircraft, but refused because of a variety of reasons ranging from Turkey’s entrance to EDA to infrastructure and logistics costs, delivery schedule etc.
F-35’s will replace the F-4E’s, starting from the unmodernized F-4E’s of 112 and 172. sq’s, while F-16’s with CCIP will remain in service until at least ~2030’s and beyond.
In fact, official plans are for 116 aircraft. Most probably the news report mistakenly stated 100, since the latter number had been speculated for some time.
Azerbaijan = mostly a MiG-29 force, active against Armenia a decade ago. Going to buy some JF-17s from Pakistan. Will be called Haydar Kebab in service.
Haydar Kebab? Double-u-tea-aefff?? 😀