Hiya!

Title says its all really: wondering what a load out for an Argentine dagger in the a2g role was during the Falklands war?

seems to be shafir missiles on the outboard pylons, then fuel tanks…..just wondering what would typically go on the centerline position: whether a single bomb or a MER, and the type of ordinance.

Any help would be hugely appreciated! 🙂

Regards

Hi MigMan,

AFAIK Argentine Dagger’s carried only naval strike missions with 2 x classic iron bombs, 2 x Shafir IR AAM’s and a centreline fuel tank.

According to Sandy Woodward’s famous book, “100 Days”, the bombs Daggr’s used were of “parachute delayed, 1000 pound” ones.

He also describes a dogfight between Arg. Dagger’s and 801 Sq Sea Harrier’s took place on May 1.. During the encounter a Dagger fires a Shafir which runs out of fuel and then goes ballistic.

Edit: After checking my archieve deeper, I’ve seen various combinations of loadouts for Dagger’s: 3 x fuel tanks, 3 x drop tanks + 2 x Mk82, so on

Tognum: Major Orders from Turkey

(Source: Tognum; issued Feb. 19, 2008)

FRIEDRICHSHAFEN, Germany — The Tognum subsidiary MTU Friedrichshafen recently received two major orders from the Turkish government to supply engines for new patrol boats and a new corvette for a total of approximately EUR 60 million.

— Strong diesel propulsion for 400-ton patrol boats:

For 16 new patrol boats, MTU Friedrichshafen will supply 32 engines of the type 16V 4000 M90, including transmission, to a dockyard in Turkey. A new generation of 400-ton boats capable of more than 25 knots is being produced to a Turkish design.

Each of the patrol boats will have two 16-cylinder engines, each with a maximum power output of 2,720 kilowatts (3,700 horsepower). With these new vessels, the Turkish Defense Ministry is modernizing the country’s coast guard and naval fleet. The first engines are to be delivered in 2009.

— Combi propulsion for corvette:

Propulsion units from the Tognum subsidiary MTU Friedrichshafen will also power the Turkish navy’s flagship project: the MILGEM corvette. For this approximately 100-meter-long ship, MTU will deliver the entire drivetrain – a combination of diesel engines and gas turbines.

It will comprise two MTU 16-cylinder Series 595 engines, each supplying up to 4,320 kW (5,875 hp), an LM2500 gas turbine with 23,000 kW (31,280 hp), a CODAG (combined diesel and gas turbine) transmission, the drive shafts and the controllable-pitch propellers. The drivetrain will be completed with electronic control and monitoring equipment from MTU. The 31,640 kW (43,030 hp) power pack will accelerate the ship to a maximum speed of more than 29 knots. The complete drivetrain is to be delivered in the middle of 2009.

MILGEM is the first ship of its kind to be designed and built in Turkey. Previously, large ships for the Turkish navy were built in cooperation with foreign dockyards. The MILGEM-class corvette (derived from “milli gemi”, Turkish for “national ship”) is being built under Turkish management in Turkey. The first ship of this class is already under construction and is to go into service in 2011. Additional MILGEM-class ships will be built in the future.

A substantial share of the volumes of the two orders will be supplied by MTU’s subsidiary in the country, MTU Turkey, which will function as a key connecting link between the client and the main plant.

Tognum is one of the world’s leading suppliers of high speed diesel engines and complete propulsion systems for ships, heavy land and rail vehicles and of industrial drive systems as well as decentralized power plants, set-up in the two divisions MTU Engines and Tognum Onsite Energy Systems and Components. Sales of the Tognum Group amounted to EUR 2.5 billion in 2006. Today, the Group employs more than 8,000 personnel worldwide.

The idea of procuring an aircraft carrier was first brought into Turkish public opinion’s attention during Operation Deny Flight and ater Kosovo bombing missions when TuAF encountered some problems regarding usage of Hellenic Airspace while transiting to the Balkans. The idea was quickly analyzed and shelved for very obvious reasons. Turkish media during the days has shown photos of Nimitz class for -again- obvious reasons but the ships in focus were rather “Invincible-like”.

On the other hand, there is an ambitious modernization project well underway for Turkish amphibious brigade, involving production and procurement of an LPD (~17,000t class), 2 x LST’s, 8 x fast LCT’s, a number of AAV’s, general purpose and cargo helicopters for marines ets.

Procurement of a squadron (`16 – 20) F-35B STOVL variant was on the desk until lately. It is cancelled.

TF-2000 is a whole different story. It will depend on the success of MilGem corvette project (on both psychological and technological bases).

That just looks another “Pimp-my-Tiger” like the “prototype” displayed last year.

You are right Zoot Horn Rollo, my mistake, there was a C-130 also, painted in Turkish Stars color scheme.

By the waqy, two great photos of the Turkish Red Flag team (6 x F-16 + 2 x KC-135R)

http://www.hvkk.mil.tr/Turkce/Faaliyetler/uatatbikat/RedFlag/01.08.2007/geri_intikal_002.jpg
http://www.hvkk.mil.tr/Turkce/Faaliyetler/uatatbikat/RedFlag/01.08.2007/geri_intikal_003.jpg

A contract has been signed on 18 July between Korean Aerospace Industries and Turkish Aerospace Industries for the licensed production of 40 (+15 option) KT-1 basic trainer aircraft in TAI facilities, Murted, Ankara; according to a press release by TAI (in Turkish).

TAI also is working on an indigenous basic trainer aircraft, “Hurkus” which is expected to make its maiden flight in 2009.

KT-1’s will replace T-37B/C Tweet’s in Turkish Air Force inventory.

Just a guess: Could it be for Romania’s IAR-330’s? AFAIK Israel’s Elbit modernized 20+ (24?, 25?) of Romania’s Puma’s. By any chance, could this be something of a follow on order?

Lastly, what was the E/O system of those modernized IAR-330’s?