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  • in reply to: Iran army shot down of a United States Drone plane RQ-170 #2307130
    orko_8
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    I have two theories:

    Prologue: AFAIK, and I wanto to underline “AFAIK”, the US officially acknowledges that its Air Force has an UAS called RQ-170 developed by Lockheed Martin. But it never has confirmed that the RQ-170 is the name of the “thing” we saw taking off from Kandahar. In other words, it is not officially confirmed that the Beast of Kandahar is RQ-170.

    Theory #1: They had a mock up of RQ-170 long before this incident, maybe for reverse engineering, or target practice or just studying RCS on a shape they produced by looking at open source materiel, i.e footage, photos etc. It is almost impossible to produce a fiberglass mock up in 4 days, especially an object with such curved features and just look at the intake! It is very well-produced for a mock-up that is claimed to be produced in 4 days.

    If this is the case, they might have wanted to use the “replica” of the RQ-170 to claim to have shoot down the Beast of Kandahar. No matter what the rest of the world would think, but this clearly is a very strong propaganda feat for the Iranian government, towards Iranians. Beside, given the case in my claim at the “prologue” is correct, I don’t very much think that the US will officially make any statements towards this case like “the UAV in the Iranian footage is RQ-170” or vice versa. Iranians, knowing this might have wanted to use this “confirmation gap”. (In theory, US might very well show an RC kit and say that “this is the RQ-170 for testing some sci-fi systems”)

    Theory #2: The UAV in the Iranian footage is actually RQ-170 and it actually was downed / shot down / “hcked” somewhere north of Tebes, 250km inside Iran – Afg. border, as the UN Ambassador of Iran said. Than this is big news, a very big scandal for the US. Such systems for sure are protected for some level against enemy tech. intel guys, but it nevertheless provides extremely valuable technical intelligence information for sure.

    If theory #2 is the case, than the question is, naturally, “how the hell?”. My guess is some sort of flame out and/or electro-mechanical malfunction. Maybe an electronic attack triggered such failure, not completely impossible. Just look at the StuxNet story. Israelis / US are not the only ones thinking & working on CyberWarfare!

    in reply to: Iran army shot down of a United States Drone plane RQ-170 #2307830
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    in reply to: Iran army shot down of a United States Drone plane RQ-170 #2310449
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    AFAIK ISAF admitted an UAV was lost at Western Afghanistan region but did not specify the type.

    Iran claims it is RQ-170 and it is “downed” using “soft” methods, i.e electronic warfare & jamming, remote control maybe.

    So we have indeed a downed / crash landed US UAV but do not know the type. If it is indeed RQ-170, than wow. Simply wow.

    in reply to: Good Russian aviation thread part 6, the return of Ivan Drago #2314941
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    http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=33920&d=1318706886
    KAB-500L

    What on earth is that basket hanging off the pylon???:confused:

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2318874
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    Anka MALE UAV developed by TAI made a 6-hour test flight on November 22. The aircraft took off and landed via automatic take-off and landing system, made an 18,000ft cruise.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUCuRfgP50

    in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2328989
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    The plot thickens!

    Ole, thanks very much for your input, although there seems to be some problems with the list provided.
    Do you know if they were received by Turkey still carrying their ROCAF serials? And do you (or anyone in Turkey) have photographic evidence of any of the F-5A/Bs that went from Taiwan to Turkey (preferably showing the ROCAF serial if it still existed on the aircraft, as some of these are currently ‘unknown’)?

    And to take this thread in a slightly different direction, which might help to fill in some of the gaps. Does anyone have any information as to the fates of any of the Taiwanese F-5A/Bs? Some obviously went to Turkey, some to Vietnam, some to the Philippines, some were presumably scrapped in Taiwan, some are preserved there (as is known). Any confirmation/evidence of fates (or even possible theories) would be great!

    AFAIK, Turkey received the following F-5A/B from Taiwan in 1988

    F-5A
    65-10531
    66-14460 (preserved at Istanbul Aviation Museum)
    66-9199
    66-9200
    67-21157
    67-21158

    F-5B
    66-9234
    67-21283
    74-0777

    All are decomm’d if I’m not mistaken.

    in reply to: Hot Dog Indian AF News and Discussion Part 17 #2372869
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    That is a Turkish KC-135 in flight refuelling a Malaysian Su-30MKK!

    now THIS is a French KC-135 with an Indian MKI :diablo:
    http://amb-inde.fr/images/ambinde/8.jpg

    The tanker aircraft seen at Deino’s post is definitely NOT a Turkish one, hence the roundels on both wing upper surfaces. Turkish aircraft carry roundels at the starboard upper side and port down side of the wing.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2373833
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    An RF-4E of 173 Filo crashed near Konya. Both crew members lost their lives.

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2375038
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    in reply to: Military Aviation News 2011 June – #2375041
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    Turkish F-16 dogfighting with a… dishwasher!!! 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV2feLD7ajM&feature=player_embedded#!

    in reply to: HELLENIC AIR FORCE NEWS & DISCUSSION #2376094
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    Not long ago a Defense News article mentioned the possibility of Greece selling some surplus F-16’s, presumably the Block 30 ones. Is there any information and/or discussion regarding this?

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force Hits Northern Iraq #2380260
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    After PKK’s coordinated attack on 8 main bases & locations in Hakkari, Cukurca province on 19 October which caused 24 KIA and 18 wounded, Turkish Armed Forces started entering Norhern Iraq with a task force consisting of 22 battalions of Special Forces (OKK), Gendarmerie Special Operations Forces (JOH) and commando units, under support of the fighters from Turkish Air Force 2nd Air Force Command and artillery units close to Turkish – Iraqi border line.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2032034
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    Turkmenistan Navy received two Russian missile boats

    Turkmenistan Navy put into service two Russian missile boat class “Molniya” (project 1241.8).

    source in Russian lanuage.

    http://lenta.ru/news/2011/10/10/molnia/

    They are also going to take delivery of two 400t class patrol boats being built by Dearsan of Turkey.

    in reply to: wanted this aircraft but could not get thread #2305108
    orko_8
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    How about Iran?

    Shah’s Iran wanted a second batch of F-14s, F-16s (even signed a contract for 160 + 140) and Harriers (to be used with the planned CVL) and E-3 AWACS AFAIK, however, Ayatollah’s Iran did not want any of them.

    The country also wanted to sell its F-14s to several countries including Canada and Turkey shortly after the Islamic Revolution, but the offer was refused.

    in reply to: wanted this aircraft but could not get thread #2305669
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    why not A-10s” seem like they’d be perfect for Turkey

    Indeed they would. But the aircraft operated were from AMARC and in pretty bad shape, pluse costs of infrastructure etc was high for the time. The total number was 50 IIRC.

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