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  • in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2620991
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    So does this mean the Su-27 indigenization is almost done? Only the engine left? Is the FWS-10A still having trouble??

    The FWS-10A is almost ready.The FWS-10A’s problem in last year was the abnormal noise when the engine running at high speed.The problem was fixed at the end of last year. Now the FWS-10A is in the final phase of type approval.The FWS-10A is being performed the 300hours endurance test,reported by Chinese Aviation News. The FWS-10A’s specification looks better than AL-31F’s. FWS-10A’s thrust=13200kg,T/W=7.8,almost same as F110’s.

    There are recently lots of good news regarding Chinese aeroengine industry.This is the reasonable result after long term’s technical deposit.

    1)The FWS-10A’s type approval (forJ-10,J-11)
    2)WS-13/Taishan’s fast progress (for FC-1)
    3) Core engine of T/W=10 sucessful
    4) New Kunlun turbojet engines (Thrust=8000kg,T/W=7) installed in J-8F.
    ….

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2621766
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    Agree.This should be J-11A that has Chinese home-made PD radar and avionics.The notes on the photo stress that this is a “new type”fighter plane, with much more powerful multimission combat capability, good at both air combat and ground attack.

    It is well known that old Su-27SK is only for air superiority.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2622428
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    JH-7A demo

    The guy is Huang Qiang,the President of Xi’an No.603 Insititute that designed the JH-7A.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2623224
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    The real JH-7A

    The real JH-7A

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2625582
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    artist’s J10C

    twin engine,half-stealth variant for AC

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2625628
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    new FTC-2000/JL-9/mountain eagle pic

    cc

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2625650
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    That’s not a “western classification”…I’ve always seen aircraft like the F-16, F-15, MiG-29, Su-27, and J-10 referred to as 4th Generation, with the F/A-22 being 5th Generation.

    Your viewpoint regarding modern fighter generation is Russian style.

    I think the well-accepted viewpoint is to classify the jet-propelled supersonic fighters come forth since 1950’s to four generations.

    The 1st generation fighters are the low supersonic fighters (M1.3-1.5) such as F-100 and MIG-19. Thet entered service in early 1950.

    The 2nd generation fighters equipped air forces in early 1960’s, max speed is more than M2. The typical ones are F-104,F-4,MIG-21,MIG-23,Mirage III, Mirage F.1,Saab-37.

    The 3rd generation fighters are F-15,F-16,MIG-29,Su-27,Mirage2000,JAS-39 and J-10,etc. No longer focused on high altitude and high speed, 3rd generation fighters feature high agility, advanced avionics, BVR, turbofan engine…

    EF-2000, Rafale, Su-37 referred to as 3.5 Generation

    The 4th generation are the F-22, F-35, MIG I.44, XXJ. For the 4th Generation, stealth and supersonic cruise are must.

    Russian classifies modern fights to five generations, because they call the subsonic fighters such as F-84, F-86, MIG-15/17 the 1st generation.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2626520
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    I think they call all those 4th generation fighters as 3rd generation.

    Right. Chinese use western classification. 3th generation fighters mean F-15,F16,Su-27 MIG-29,J-10/11….

    The first L15 will be assembled by Aug 15,2005.
    (http://www.avic2.com.cn/ReadNews.asp?NewsID=2166&BigClassName=新闻快报&SmallClassName=集团新闻&DispType=1&SpecialID=0)

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2627222
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    Mass production of the ‘Mountain Eagle’ fighter-pilot training aircraft is exp

    ‘Mountain Eagle’ ready to spread wings
    By Zhao Huanxin (China Daily)
    Updated: 2005-06-21 02:15

    GUIYANG: Mass production of the country’s most advanced fighter-pilot training aircraft is expected to start next year, one of the country’s major military aircraft developers said yesterday.

    The training plane was designed and developed based on nine years of research.Powered by a turbo fan engine and equipped with advanced electronics, the aircraft boasts excellent maneuver ability coupled with low operational and maintenance costs. Although envisioned as primarily a trainer, the plane can easily be turned into an armed figher plane. [newsphoto/file]

    Tests on the “Mountain Eagle”, China’s new home-designed and developed trainer plane, are going so well that the Guizhou Aviation Industry Group is producing parts and components to prepare for mass production, according to company Vice-President Zhang Shangdao.

    A subsidiary of the Beijing-based China Aviation Industry Corp I (AVIC I), the Guizhou group, in Southwest China, has manufactured more than 1,100 military aircraft of different types since it was founded in 1964.

    “We have begun making parts and components for the Mountain Eagle,” Zhang told China Daily in an exclusive interview.

    “Our goal is to see to it that a number of the new trainers go to the military in 2006.”

    As well as being used for training at home, the new aircraft is also aimed at the foreign market, Zhang said.

    Enough parts and components will be produced this year to assemble up to 10 planes, he added.

    However, that does not necessarily mean 10 trainers will be built as some parts or components will be scrapped in the course of further design improvement.

    The Mountain Eagle, or Shanying in Chinese, has been in the public eye since its successful test debut on December 13, 2003.

    “The sophisticated trainer satisfies the country’s need to train pilots for third-generation fighter aircraft, while at the same time serving as a basic trainer,” Zhang said.

    Asked how the new plane would contribute to the country’s national defence, Zhang said the trainer jet was designed to improve training performance and speed up the fighter-pilot training process.

    The plane’s performance and cost-effectiveness will also give the Mountain Eagle an edge in the international market, he said, even though it is not the most advanced trainer in the world.

    Since it is both a fighter and trainer, some small countries, lacking a large fleet of fighter planes, could use the Mountain Eagle to train their fighter pilots in peace time, arming it for use as a fighter in wartime, Zhang said.

    Over the past 18 months, the Guizhou company and a flight testing and experimenting institute in Xi’an in Northwest China’s Shaanxi Province have been testing the new plane, fine tuning it to meet needs of potential buyers at home and abroad.

    By last week, two pre-production Mountain Eagle’s models had each made more than 300 takeoffs and landings, recording at least 200 hours flying time, Zhang said.

    Results show the Mountain Eagle has met all test criteria, and the company may be able to confirm the plane’s final design specifications by the end of the year before proceeding to mass production next year.

    Zhang did not say exactly how many planes will be needed domestically. As yet the company has received no orders from overseas.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2627690
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    …..

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    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2629424
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    new J10 pic

    not in Chengdu,should be in northwest for weapen test

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