Just found (here for example at CDF posted by Tam) …. maybe J-11B prototype + WZ-10 😮 🙁

Ohhh … these are so interesting and exciting times …. :diablo:

Deino

I don’t think the photo is fake. It is the fact that all new aircrafts should be tested at China Fight Test Establishment in Yanliang, Xi’an.

The J-11B should have a pair of WS-10A engine as well as indigenous radar and avionics with multirole capability.

Wrong. Czechoslovakia has been designing domestic ejection seats since decades. VS1-BRI for L-39 or VS2 for L-159, for instance. Same goes for Sweden (in J35, J37)..

Yup,strictly saying you are right.However, the four countries what I mean are the ones with world-class aviation life-support industry,leading tech,independent designing capability, large scale experimental facility and having large amount,mass production record for ejection seat. The four contries in my mind are USA,Russia,China and UK.

China has produced several thousands of ejection seat for internal used and exported planes. The current series products in production are TY-4,TY-5,TY-6,TY-7. TY-6 is for J7,J8;TY-5 is for J10, TY-7 is for K8 and FC-1. TY-4 and TY-2,TY-3 are for J6,Q5,etc.Special types includes ejection seats for manned spacecraft,for helicopters…. PAF has chose TY-7 for FC-1 instead of Martin Baker’s counterpart.

Following is from TY-5’s brochure: (TY-5 is in same level as MK16)

TY-5 ROCKET EJECTION SEAT:

The rocket—assisted ejection seat system manufactured by the seats—manufacturing department of JALI is developed with advanced technology , which is one of the good aviation life—support equipments in China at present. The rocket—assisted ejection seat system is composed of main structure, seat bucket, parachute container/headrest, drogue & escapeparachute projection subsystem, seat—type survival kit, combined propulsion subsystem of ejection—gun & rodket—motor, sequencing subsystem, seat—firing—control subsystem, and etc.. JALI’s rocket—assisted ejection seat system has been in seriation.
NOTICE: Dedicated to aircraft escape systems, JALI has the capability and flexibility to meet all requirements for the design, manufacture and retrofit of single or tandem ejection seats for all types of military aircraft. Please inform the specified requirements.

TY-5 ROCKET EJECTION SEAT SAFE ESCAPE PERFORMANCE OF THE SEAT

Max operation velocity(IAS): 1100km/h
Min operation velocity(IAS): 0km/h
Max operation altitude: Aircraft Ceiling
Min operation altitude: 0km
Maneuvering Performance: Full Compliance with the requirements of US military specification MIL-S-18471F(AS)
Seat installation weight: ≯107kg 　
PRIMARY DESIGN FEATURES

The TY-5 rocket ejection seat is an advanced escape system revised and modified on the basis of various types of previous ejection seats past experience of escape system development, manufacture has been applied to make TY-5 a high performance system with advanced reliability and maintainability. It is configured to provide an excellent means for escape from aircraft. The principal design characteristics of the seat and its subsystems are illustrated as follows:

HIGH RELIABILITY FOR SAFE ESCAPE
Dual igniters (primers) are incorporated for ejection propulsion and all explosive cartridges to ensure reliable functioning of the pyrotechnics.

The parachute-propelling-unit for the main parachute is integrated with dual cartridges, increasing the reliability of the main parachute deployment. Operation of either cartridge propels the parachute away from the seat and achieves reliable deployment.

Three subsystems( namely, two automatic subsystems and one emergency manual subsystem) are used for separating the crewman from the seat to achieve reliable seat/man separation.

HIGH PERFORMANCE FOR LOW ALTITUDE AND ADVERSE CONDITIONS
Through canopy ejection is introduced on the TY-5 seat to reduce the time lapse between initiation of ejection and egress of the seat from cockpit, improving minimum safe escape performance under adverse attitude of aircraft.

The use of electronic sequencing subsystem permits precise and optimum moment selected for propelling the main parachute from the seat. With the airspeed and altitude data collected, the optimum moment is determined by a computer to achieve improved escape performance (especially the escape performance for low altitude and adverse attitude) by reducing time lapse from ejection initiation to full development of the main parachute.

IMPROVED 0—0 PERFORMANCE
The TY-5 system uses a combined propulsion unit which consists of a catapult integrated with seatback rocket(SBR). There is a velocity component in aerial horizontal direction, thus improving the 0—0 escape performance.

MAXIMUM PROTECTION AGAINST WINDBLAST
Upper limbs restraint and protection mechanism operated by hot gas is employed in the TY-5 system to provide occupant with maximum protection against windblast.

ADVANCED MAINTAINABILITY
The use of sheet metal seat pan, seat frame fabricated of high strength aluminum alloy, and the use of control system powered by hot gas increase the maintainability of the TY-5 system.

INCREASED LOAD TOLERANCE LIMIT
The TY-5 system incorporates dual shoulder inertia power retraction unit to provide maximum load tolerance limit.

First large vertical wind tunnel successfully completed in China

First large vertical wind tunnel successfully completed in China

The first large vertical wind tunnel, designed and built independently by China itself, successfully completed its test run yesterday at an aerodynamic research base in the northwest of Sichuan Province. The completion of such a large vertical wind tunnel will further boost China’s technical competence and testing capability in aerodynamic research.

　　The overall height of the newly built vertical wind tunnel is 55 m, of which, the diameter of the testing segment is 5 m, and the maximum wind speed at the center of the tunnel is over 50m/sec. This new wind tunnel adopts advanced wind speed regulating technology in modern times to control the wind speed, and its overall technologies are in the lead of the world. The said tunnel will mainly be used to evaluate aircraft stalling/tail shaft performance, and to do complicated aerodynamic stability research in the recovery process of recoverable satellite and manned spacecraft as well as aerodynamic research in other related fields.

　　In the design stage of this vertical wind tunnel, the aerodynamic research base made sure that the vertical wind tunnel to be built would be advanced in key technologies and its intellectual property rights would be possessed by China independently, so as to enable China to reach the world’s advanced level as far as its research and testing capability in this field was concerned.

　　Since China had only horizontal wind tunnels before, thus the completion of this vertical wind tunnel has not only filled in a blank in China’s wind tunnel families, but also will play an important role in the development of China’s national defense science and technology and national economic construction.

　　By Zhou Jianjun and Zhao Bo

　　(Sep. 20, PLA Daily)

With regards to the failure of the F-8II to secure any export orders, one does have to consider that the aircraft is larger and more expensive than, say, a J-7, and at the time, unless you went for the Zhuk-equipped variant, you weren’t getting a BVR weapon. Without BVR capability, you’re better off maximising your dollars and buying J-7s instead. Shorter ranged, but cheaper to maintain, and you get more jets for your dollars.

Agree. F8IIM may be too large and compilcated to operate for most 3rd world countries. However for midium sized country like Iran, F8IIM may be a not bad choice. Plus, the new version F8IIM as showed in 2004 Zhuhai Airshow has been upgraded to a multirole fighter instead of being an intercepter. New F8IIM’s PD radar+SD10+high altitude high speed feature will make it a formidable killer in BVR air to air fight. And it’s anti-ship and anti-radiation capability will be very useful in controlling Persian Gulf. Iran has many years expercience of using C802(K).

a new toy

China’s new diffractive optical HUD

how big are the MFDs used by other aircraft that also have 3 MDFs?

I forgot the exact size,maybe 5″x4″. I made a picture that you can tell what the difference is and how advanced the FC1/JF17’s avionics is.

Great job for FC-1 04’s cockpit!!! Three MDFs of 8″x12″ color LCD! Only F16Block60 and JAS39 can match it.

first offical J-10 photo from a magzine