And I have to agree with PPP. I’d take the Su-34 over the B-2 any day
Are you sure he wasn’t nominating it for the ugliest jet???? 😉 😉 😉
Both A-12’s make it on my short list of best looking, worst is the F-16 (boring) and Eurofighter.
Matt
I don’t think the warhead is the main issue, as I understand it the main difficulties for matters like this are software related but I wouldn’t think that AIM-9X would have the range to take out incoming missiles safely.
Perhaps not for a shoot-miss-shoot engagement, but for a shoot-shoot-hit (we hope 😉 ) engagement, the range should be sufficient. AMRAAM would be nice, but you’d have to add a whole extra radar set for that.
Matt
Could an AWACS aircraft be fitted with a CIWS such as Phalanx to shoot down incoming missiles?
I know it sounds crazy, but if it works on ships….
I’ve been wondering about AIM-9X for that purpose. At the launch ranges we are discussing, there should be plenty of time for even an AWACS to get nose on enough to fire, and even the small warhead on Sidewinder is enough to get that job done.
Matt
A single vertical stabilizator is not inherently unstealthy. The way i see it, the problem with it arises from the fact that it often forms 90 deg angle with the horizontal stabilizators, which could be seen as unstealthy. But that also depends on the positioning of both the vertical and horizontal stabilizators.
With that in mind, I wonder how much RCS gain could be made using a single fin and drooping tail planes a’ la F-4???
Matt
Nike Hercules:
Range 140 km and height up to 45 km or 150.000 feet, speed Mach 3,65, splinter war-head of 272 kg or nuclear W31 (2-40 kT). :diablo:
First Cold War deployment in October 1958 to Taiwan.
So the top speed was only ~ .5 mach faster then a YF-12, .4 mach slower than GAR-9. 90 mile range vs. a demonstrated 40, paper 100 mile range of Falcon. I’m not sure what the ceiling of YF-12/GAR-9 would be, though if a Falcon were flying UP, the target would almost have to be orbital/sub-orbital. I do have to concede the nuclear option, though.
SAM’s have some definate advantages, but I think the vastly expanded range of the YF-12/GAR-9 combo overcomes many of them.
Matt
From the 60s there were no longer high and fast flying bombers to aspect, because the development of SAMs did jump ahead and the own NIKE-system did show the USA what is possible already.:eek:
The idea of fast interceptors was buried in the late 50s and early 60s already for good reasons.
What was the stand-off range of a SAM at the time???
The superior altitude would stretch the range of the most basic AAM’s, and maybe even allow ASAT to be developed sooner.
Matt
I almost thought for a second this place didn’t have its own little fonck/thunder/gegene/sampaix… 😉
Heh, we have -phobes and -philes and fanboys of every variety you can imagine, and a few you’d probably rather not 😀 😀 😀
Matt
Cliff Notes:
International relations primarily consist of one nation f@cking another. – Domingo Chavez
Yeah, it’s a Clancy quote, but it fits 😀
Matt
Dunno, there’s be strong hints of Company involvement there….
Maybe if disapeared in the dark of night, being replaced with a note saying “so long, and thanks for all the fish???”
😀 😀 😀
Matt
Since we had a Clancy air -strike scenario, how bout a DeMercuiro sub strike scenario????
Get a big oil tanker, I mean WAY big. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we’re trying to get across here. 😉
Cut a hole in the bottom big enought for the sub, surface sub inside the tanker, and transit through the Suez as routine traffic. Seperate the two sometime thereafter. Tanker suffers a serious casualty, big (BIG) explosion, look at me.
Sub shoots & scoots
I know, far out :diablo:
Matt
The measure is more “what would the RCS be had we NOT taken these measures to reduce it?” So while the SR-71 may not be stealthy compared to today’s aircraft, compared to the A-11 it was a big improvement. The chines were for stealth, the inward-canted tails were, the paint (supposedly), and so on.
I agree on all points except the paint. It *might* have an incidental effect, since black does absorb the most radiation, but the primary reason was to radiate heat out, lowering airframe temps and easing the load on the structure and thermo designers.
Matt
I never looked at it as a typo until your response. The whole sentence made pretty much sense even with the word ‘fun’, albeit with completely different meaning.
My apologies… The part of my response in question will be deleted.
Thanks, man.
Always nice when guys own up to mistakes, even if it’s not all their fault 😎
Matt
The fact that you describe Israeli attack as ‘fun’ makes me clearly see who am I dealing with here.. Cannot wait to attack someone, right? Don’t be surprised that there are crowds of Arabs and Persians that consider attack on Israel as ‘fun’ in return.
So the best argument you can make is mocking a typo???
Weak.
Matt
One occasionaly reads about drowning of a ferry or a “Passenger-Ship” due to a storm or typhoon, however such news tend to be very rare for military ships.
Is there a special reason for that. The military ships tend to be big and heavy, but is this the sole reason for their being relatively safe, or a safety-factor against storms is incorporated in their designs.
One more question, in the event of a storm, will a submarine be more a safe than a surface vessel.
Mostly you hear of ferrys (ferries?) having problems, due mostly to seakeeping being pushed to the end of the design line by capacity,speed, and economy.
Matt
Next year if all goes according to plan the F.3 Tornado of 1435 flight will be replaced by Typhoon.
I think it would be interesting to talk about the RAF’s process of transfering to the new type – for example I presume the RAF will follow the new procedure and use the C17 to fly the airframes down.
What’s the logic behind carrying them down in pieces, vs. a ferry flight and C-17 delivery of the new ground equipment?
Matt