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  • in reply to: MMRCA News and Discussion III #2414788
    Robert Hilton
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    So to decrease it RCS you increase the RCS of the cover, increasing the overall reflective surface, which doesn’t have any sign of LO shape, which is more exposed to radar than the cockpit , and this last would or would not be exposed to radar incidence…

    I really think the golden foil has a more mundane work, but then, on this, is my personal opinion.

    Gold film has been used as a heating element in canopies before, I would assume it still is. It also makes a good sun shade without degrading good vision for the pilot.

    in reply to: General Discussion #301594
    Robert Hilton
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    By all means, invite him over and listen to what he has to say. He will however remain an opportunistic prat.

    in reply to: Dutch MP allowed into the UK. Your views. #1891145
    Robert Hilton
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    By all means, invite him over and listen to what he has to say. He will however remain an opportunistic prat.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2415399
    Robert Hilton
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    I really don’t think it’s that bad. My nephew is in a 135 unit…everyone is coping. 🙂
    Besides, 135s don’t have as many hours as most people think.

    It’s not just hours but also physical age. They are getting long in the tooth.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2433507
    Robert Hilton
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    Fuel off-load is exactly what it says, fuel passed on to other a/c (receivers).

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435096
    Robert Hilton
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    If the USAF standardised on three point tankers, with receptacles on large aircraft & probes on smaller ones, it’d have the best of all worlds. It’d also be able to meet the needs of USN & USMC aircraft, when required.

    BTW, I think the RAF should do the same.

    It is a sensible solution but the military will have to decide that.;)

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435098
    Robert Hilton
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    This all leads to the conclusion that current tankers are timing out, rather than fueling out because it takes so long to offload the fuel, Probe and drogue woud reduce the time taken for a four aircraft package by 75%, and allow more fuel to be offloaded.

    Refuelling two at a time will reduce time but refuelling singletons will take longer. The boom can taylor it’s fuel flow to the maximum the receiver can handle, most pods will deliver in the region of 2400lb/min and the larger centre-lines (HDU) will deliver in the region of 4000lb/min. A boom can exceed that by a handsome margin.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435142
    Robert Hilton
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    well tell us Nostradamus, what sized tanker will be most efficient when fighting Oceania 20 years from now?

    efficiency is nice, but when fighting a full-up war, NO ONE CARES

    so the 767 is efficient for fighting policing actions when you have full control of the skies and there are no SAM threats and can be based close to the action

    here’s a gold star you can show your mommy

    your entire argument seems to be based around efficiency is small-time operations

    my argument is based on capability, flexibility, worst-case scenarios

    and no, being smaller is not necessarily an advantage in those situations as IFARA once again showed the ability to do the same mission with fewer aircraft, or if you prefer, more missions with the same number of aircraft

    Inded well put. The trend in operations over the last few decades has been towards extended lines, requiring a more flexible approach. The extender concept typifies this rather well. The KC30 would certainly offer far more flexibilty as a “mini extender”, after all, what kind of operations will they be flying in 20 years time?

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435240
    Robert Hilton
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    Granted, but is that a strong enough arguement?

    Boom refueling might be best for large aircraft, but for small ones probe and drogue seems far more suitable.

    I agree with you on this, having worked on three point tankers myself I do appreciate the pros and cons. The boom was developed in the US for a very specific need from the SAC for refuelling the bombers in short order. Probe and drogue came about when Sir Allen Cobham was asked if he had some form of automatic refuelling system to service single seat fighters. Funny thing is, it was the USAF that asked him.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435336
    Robert Hilton
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    just another example of your disenguousness. if you knew diddly squat about tanker operations you would know measuring fuel offload is a STUPID way of measuring how much a tanker was used

    if a tanker has a very long flight to its station, it will burn most of its fuel getting there and flying back

    the total fuel offload numbers will look very small but that doesn’t mean a small tanker would have done the job

    similarly a tanker that is waiting on station burns fuel even if it’s not refuelling anyone at the moment

    a better number would be how much fuel was left at the end of a mission

    Black Buck being a good example of this problem. The number of tankers required due to the small load a Victor carried meant a far more expensive and complicated mission.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435341
    Robert Hilton
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    imho it’s about time the USAF started to switch it’s tactical aircraft to probe and drogue tanking; is there any good reason to keep boom and recepticle tanking for fighters?

    Yes, commonality of the inventory. Or you do the same as the UK E3’s, probe and receptacle.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2435613
    Robert Hilton
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    KC-767 can fit more booms on the ground, KC-30 can fit more booms in the air

    Its longer range and greater endurance allows more basing flexibility and more time on station, which results in more booms in the air

    Indeed a point well made.
    The major assumption of some people here is that the KC-X will just quietly replace the KC 135 and continue the same sort of operations as they do today. The introduction of any new material in the inventory always comes with evaluations of the best way to operate it in the field. If the USAF find the extra capabilty of the KC 30, or the 777 for that matter, to offer more capability then operations will be adjusted to suit. It is naive to think that the tanker force will just trade-in the 135’s for new equipment and carry on “business as usual”.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2437564
    Robert Hilton
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    I would assume so Swerve.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2437592
    Robert Hilton
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    Have you even been to the US? :rolleyes:

    Thanks for so clearly demonstrating your ignorance to the realities of US aerial refueling operations.

    A number of times, mainly on vacation. I did work there once, fixing a tanker a/c at Edwards:rolleyes:

    Compared to you, I’m just an amateur.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2437651
    Robert Hilton
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    Hear is a hint. You can count the number types on one hand. 😉

    1200 gal/min is no leap. The KC-10A is capable of 1500 gal/min (not that any receiver can receive at such a rate).

    But to put the numbers into perspective…

    F-15 receive rate: 3,400 lbs/min (~507 gal/min)
    F-16 receive rate: 2,600 lbs/min (~388 gal/min)

    Even if one assumes the F-22/F-35 have increased receive rate to 600 gal/min (4020 lbs/min) you are STILL talking about only half the rate KC-X is to be capable of.

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    Wrong.

    I have had PLENTY of direct access to PLENTY of tanker personnel (including flight crew, ground crew & on up to Wing Commanders). In fact it is my discussions with them which have ‘shaped my view’ as much if not more than anything else.

    I thought we were discussing a KC135 replacement not the KC10. By your very own arguments we should limit ourselves to the capabilities of the 135 and judge it’s replacement by that yardstick.

    Assuming the receiver rates of the newer generation a/c is all very well for parlour talk, but that is all it is, parlour talk.

    So you have access to tanker personnel? You have stated to me that you have no personal experience with tanker ops, I assume (rightly or wrongly) that you are a civilian. So how do you gain so much access to these people? Do you work on base? Are related to someone on the tanker fleet? Even then how many have you “interviewed”? How many do you ignore because they don’t say the things you want to hear? In effect you are involved in a game of Chinese whispers. Retelling something you’ve had whispered into your ear. Anybody who has played the game can tell you, the message at the end of the chain is always different to the original.

    If you think Boeing is the only a/c for the job, fine that’s your choice. In the real world however, people with far more knowledge and experience than you will decide what is best for the USAF.
    For me it makes no difference be it A or B, it doesn’t even matter to me which one is in reality the best. All I do know is, that if I were the man choosing, and seeing that such assets will be in service for decades, I would choose the more modern airframe with the greater capacity. That way there is always room for growth.

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