Concorde did not need to use afterburner to break Mach 1. Had that been necessary, how could it have supercruised at Mach 2?

From what I have read, it was more fuel efficient to use afterburner to break through Mach 1 and this practice was adopted.

See post #9

Concorde didn’t need reheat to exceed Mn1.0, but it would use less fuel by doing so. It was always capable of (and did) supercruise as it didn’t use reheat to sustain it’s cruise speed.

As someone that was living near Waddington until quite recently, let me correct you all.

XL189 was the gate guard and it was still in the old camo scheme when it was scrapped in 89, the airframe that arrived with an onboard fire was XH669 and it was painted in the Hemp colour scheme and after sometime in the hangers for investigation (presumably) and after spares recovery it went onto the dump.

Tim S

I had left the Victors before that (’86) so I thought it abit strange that 189 should have arrived in the early ’90’s.
Mind you, it had to be “sicky, sicky nine” to pull a stunt like that. When I worked on 669 you only had to put power on twice in a day for it to go u/s.

Nice! And here I was thinking it would find a good home in a phantom!

Sorry, wrong engine.

Anyone know what this was all about…A Beaufighter-powered shed at Halton 1957!

Cheers, Chumpy.

A way of training fitters to ground-run a/c?

As both designs came out of what is now BAE Warton, then I wonder if it’s an individual designer?

Whilst Teddy Petter did design alot of aircraft I don’t think the Jag was amongst them.

It is because the British are strange.

Secondly, but much less important consideration, both aircraft suffer from lack of underwing space. The Lightning uses the majority of its wing for undercarriage, the Jaguar already has two pylons.
Advantage of overwing pylons is that they work as wing fence. Disadavnatge is tedious weapons installation, more weight for similar payload and a drop in local lift.

But as I said, predominantly the British use this configuration because they want to demonstrate their fuzzy thinking.

The Lightning F53 had underwing pylons as well.

Thurst to weight ratio for the EJ200 is approx 10:1
Thurst to weight ratio for the Spey is approx 5:1

That’s a pretty important factor too.

Intake design and aerodynamics are more important.