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  • in reply to: What Happened To The Black Valiant "Pathfinder" WJ954 #1285476
    Robert Hilton
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    I assume then the fairings were whitcomb pods similar to those on the Victor mk2. If so then they were a way of “area ruling” an existing airframe to help reduce transonic drag.

    in reply to: Lightning at rochester airport #1286368
    Robert Hilton
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    Do you have a photo? Preferably showing it’s registration or maintenance number.

    in reply to: Science Museum, London, UK #1291808
    Robert Hilton
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    It’s a pity the Victor B1 model has a B2 tail number.

    in reply to: Obstruction lights on Tornado #2518271
    Robert Hilton
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    I noticed on the picture link you provided that the Tornado aircrews have white crosses painted across the back of their helmets. Anyone know why they do that?

    It’s actually reflective tape, they all have it regardless of a/c type.
    I suppose it’s easier to see if the pilot has banged out at night.;)

    in reply to: Vulcan Ground Support Question. #1293409
    Robert Hilton
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    The piece of equipment in very short supply these days (apart from the tow bar already mentioned, although there are several of these at Bruntingthorpe;) ), is a 200v 400 cycle AC 3-phase, 28v DC ground power unit, a Houchin. They’re like hens teeth, and a bit heavy….:)

    Especially if you’re looking for a 60KVA unit.

    in reply to: Vulcan Ground Support Question. #1293642
    Robert Hilton
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    Well, we used to go around the world with only a crew chief and there is not really any reason why the crew cannot do their own Pre Flight Inspection and transit servicing. The Daily inspection can be done prior to departure from base and could normally be expected to remain valid for the departure the following day. However if required the crew could carry out this inspection as well. If the stop was more than one night then there might be a case for some engineering cover. Any parking would of course have to be self-manoeuvring. Whilst most ground handling agents have Boeing and Airbus towbars, Vulcan ones are in pretty short supply. Unless of course the organiser accepted the additional expense of having the item pre-positioned.

    If you have any defects that’s another story. If they cannot be carried under the terms of the Minimum Equipment List then you are going to require engineering support and spares. The spares are going to have to come from the main operating base as it would be impractical to carry around or pre-position a sufficiently large range of items to cater for any likely problems.

    It is worth bearing in mind that this is now a civil aircraft and the engineering schedule will be be approved by the CAA and not Bomber Command Engineering Staff. The latter would have had a very large pool of manpower (I know it didn’t seem like it at the time!) to carry out the tasks and would have utilised them all. The CAA regulations do not make such assumptions they just require that the schedule is adequate.

    The bottom line however is cost. The aircraft is going to be expensive to operate and it will have to be done with the minimum number of personnel.

    exmpa

    Indeed, although supplies of nitrogen, air, OX38 and OM15 on location would help. A couple of ladders would also be useful:D

    in reply to: Roundals for Vampire #1295707
    Robert Hilton
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    Let your fingers do the walking to the Sign Makers section in the Yellow Pages. These companies do the stickers that white van man and the like put onto their vans so can clearly print/cut to order.

    Unsure what colour repro would be like on the colours for the roundals bit no reason why it shouldnt work. The Vampire has flush skins/rivets and the dayglo markings in service were large stickers anyway. 😀

    Even the RAF uses them these days for squadron crests.

    in reply to: A Couple Of Vulcan Questions… #1296699
    Robert Hilton
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    That’s correct, 10 in total; one per horizontal surface and primary and secondary for the rudder. IIRC they were made by Hobson. I believe that the elevon PFCUs were all the same but that the rudder units were more powerful. I was once told that the starting load on the rudder units was 600amps!

    exmpa

    The last I heard some young engineer had “invented” this sort of PFCU recently for commercial a/c. Something about being less susceptable to hydraulic failures and redundency.

    in reply to: A Couple Of Vulcan Questions… #1296928
    Robert Hilton
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    *A hangover to the Mk1 flying control system was still present on the Mk2. The Power Flying Control (PFC) panel on the left outboard console still had start buttons labelled E,R,A. The E button started the inboard elevon PFC units and the A the outboard units. The R started both Rudder units although only one was engaged at any one time, the second unit acting as a standby.

    Vulcanpilot can no doubt recall the additional function of the R start button.

    exmpa

    I assume then that like the Victor, the Vulcan had independant units with their own motor, pump and hydraulic cylinder?

    in reply to: Bristol Siddeley Turbofans? #1302211
    Robert Hilton
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    (Why no turbofan for TSR.2?) Timing.

    Turbojet BE.10 and (later term, turbofan) E.113 originated 1946 for (to be V-Craft). EE’s bid used their (in house) Napier engine; Avro took Bristol and won with (to be) B.Ol.100. EE/Napier sold their scheme to RR, where Griffith cared for it as RB80. Priority to 1950 went on making any Avon work. RB80 was then selected for Valiant B.2, the intended prime production version. Cancelled. Conway retained funding for V.1000(VC7), which died in 1955, but was then bid for Mk.2 Victor/Vulcan, winning one, and for DC-8/40, 707-400, VC10.

    Spec for (to be)TSR.2 derives from 1957, when DH Gyron and Ol.200 had higher bench mileage than Conway. RR punted genus Medway, a turbofan of many cousins. Industry was told this would be the last big project, we had excess design capacity, kindly merge. Bristol + (HSAL) ASM were willing to do so around an even bigger B.Ol. RR looked about them, at Napier and DH, and said nah! – just take Medway. At this time BS.53 was a weird experiment. PCB had been filed away after RR acquired W.2/700 (M.52’s engine): it was resurrected for a big BS.53 in 1961, when we also decided to do the SST with France. A modest variant of B.Ol.22R justified them ceding lead to the Rosbifs; any novel type, such as a turbofan for endurance/economy, would admit SNECMA to, at least, equality.

    Bit odd by then for the T-S-R type to be thrust on geriatric metallurgy/dynamics. Even odder to be defined by a steam room for valves. Hence the 1961 draft ASR built around quad/electric signalling that eventually became Tornado.

    Interesting points, especially about the Avon. It was in fact technology from Armstrong-Siddeley that helped make the Avon what it was(is). Again from my own experiences and what I have read about the Conway with reheat it would have been quite a challenge to make it a reliable and stable engine.
    The restrictions in service for the Victor attest to the poor working line of the lp compressor. RR did a series of strain tests in the mid eighties after which stringent operating limitations were promulgated. The Conway had always been a little too much for the intake dimensions so uprating it with the zero stage only made it worse.

    in reply to: Bristol Siddeley Turbofans? #1303110
    Robert Hilton
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    The Conway comes across as an engine that never quite lived up to expectations. The BS.100 was always intended for supersonic flight so it might have been a good option? An interesting side note, the BS.100 was at one time the most powerful jet engine in the western world!:eek:

    The Conway was a big and powerful engine and could run virtually forever (see the East African Airways VC10s). However when they uprated it in the Victor it started to show that it had reached it’s limits unless you were prepared to rework an awful lot of the engine. I suppose in that respect it didn’t live up to expectations, it wasn’t a big seller and had few applications.

    in reply to: Bristol Siddeley Turbofans? #1303114
    Robert Hilton
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    Nailed it…according to Bill Gunston’s history of Rolls-Royce engines, RR designed and built a reheat installation for a Conway in January 1959 as potential TFX engine for the US.
    It was put together in a week (!) and at first gave a boost of 27.3%, rising to 47.5% a few days later.

    Indeed, you are right, I’ve managed to find some info. There were a couple of proposals, one for the Republic F105 and one for the Avro(C) Arrow.
    They used an Avon reheat pipe (2000 K) to lash up a test unit.
    They had problems with light up and lp compressor surge, also the mixing of the air streams caused alot of trouble.I think the general idea was that there were better engines around.

    in reply to: Bristol Siddeley Turbofans? #1303422
    Robert Hilton
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    I know that the Conway was suggested for the P.1121 so maybe there was an after burning version that made it at least to the paper stage?:confused: Surely a turbofan would have been a better option for TSR-2? If it was entirely critical that a BS engine be used for the TSR-2 then why not a straight through BS.100?:confused:

    Maybe it was a case of “2nd best tomorrow”, the Olympus was I think better developed at the time. Why did they then choose the Olympus for Concorde?
    It must have had some merit above the Conway. Having seen the insides of the Conway I think there would have been a fair amount of rework needed to get it to work reliably at continuous supersonic speeds.

    in reply to: Bristol Siddeley Turbofans? #1303431
    Robert Hilton
    Participant

    I don’t have the reference source at my fingertips, but I’m 99 per cent sure RR did bench-test a reheated Conway at some time. Never flew it though.

    As far as I know it wasn’t done at Derby.

    in reply to: Bristol Siddeley Turbofans? #1303464
    Robert Hilton
    Participant

    IIRC, BAC wanted a Rolls-Royce engine for TSR.2 but were told they had to use the Olympus.

    I don’t think that RR had a reheated Conway, I’ve never read anything about one. I do know that RR did design a con-di silencer nozzle complete with reverse thrust for the Olympus. This was at a time when BS was still independant. Further, the uprated Conway (201 series Victor) was not the most reliable engine around. it did suffer from a number of compressor failures (zero stage) in service. That would have made the marrying of a reheat unit more difficult and expensive to do.

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