According to my father the fault was discovered by one of his best friends, a chap called john griffin. were they really cheap and nasty? its a shame though that only one complete one survives 🙁
It was a generation behind the Victor and the Vulcan and indeed it is a shame that there is only one.
That is double Dutch!
I’ll go along with that.
The book “I always get my sin” springs to mind.:D
Yeah, thats right (as far as I’m aware). There was a Valiant B.x prototype – a black one. wonder what happened with that? That was supposed to be a low level bomber in the same mould as the B2 versions of the Vic and Vulc
Neither the Vulcan nor the Victor B2’s were designed for low-level work, this was a role that was forced upon them by circumstances. In fact the Victor B2 had a ten foot longer wingspan than the B1, not really conducive to low-level flying.
Of the three V bombers introduced into the Raf in the ’50s what went wrong with the Valiant?
The Vulcan served between 1956 and 1984 famously bombing the Falkland Islands in two historic 16 hour 8000 mile Black Buck raids in 1982.
The Victor served between 1957 and 1993, after conversion to tanker in 1974 provided airbourne refueling in 1982 and 1991 in both the Falklands War and Desert Storm.
The Valiant entered service in 1953, flew bombing raids in 1947 during the Suez crisis and the last Valiant squadren was disbanded only 12 years after the aircraft entered service.
Why were the Vulcan and Victor able to continue in RAF service for well beyind their 20 year and yet the Valiant didn’t make it past 15?
The Valiant suffered from fatigue in the mainspar. This was discovered late ’64 early ’65.
The first Victor tankers (B(K)1 2P) were ready in ’66. The B2’s were converted to K’s in the ’70’s, the first arriving in ’74.
And now for the “Jaguar-noob-who-is-too-lazy-to-google-” question of the day: With the landing gear and the high air intakes in mind; was the Jaguar built for dirt runway operations?
Yes, the Jaguar was built to operate from unprepared strips. I have also seen one taxi over grass with with no detrimental affects, not something you could do with a Lightning or a Buccaneer.
Yup, G-BWGL is going to live in the Netherlands……
Was registered to “STICHTING HAWKER HUNTER FOUNDATION” at Leeuwarden in March 2007..
That’s somewhat double up. Stichting and Foundation:D
Yep, The RAF Regt Depot, home to 1, II, 15 and 27 Sqn’s RAF Regt and FP Wg HQ amongst others.
Yep, remember 1 when they were at Laarbruch.
Honington is still open.
Home to the Rock Apes I believe.
I think this will be inevitable to some degree, although it is to be a contracted Tri-Service venture, and as ‘RAF St Athan’ officially closed last year………….
Binbrook, Machrihanish, Honington, St Athan, Swinderby, Laarbruch all closed and still Marham is open! Call that justice!
Blimey thats come around quickly.
Its hard to believe that they are on their way out so soon. Now Im feeling very very old. 🙁
Anybody know why the airframes are going to Cosford? I thought the schools that Im assuming would be using them at Cosford were moving to St Athan?
So training is going back to St Athan? Will it be No 4 S of TT?
Well, I am showing my age now.
It’s a sad day for those of us that kept them flying.
Very primitive assumption, which possibly helps over North Vietnam, but surely not over the Soviet Union. No problem to build a missile that reaches 100,000ft and Mach 5. Guidance no problem either. Add some MW to the illuminator. Due to high altitude the B-70 can be detected hundreds of miles before it enters the airspace.
The B-52 had at least some capability to survive a missile hit. I think the lost airframes reflect only partly the number of SAM hits over North Vietnam. A Mach 3 aircraft has less room for trading.
That is all very well but it has been proved in the past that you could penetrate the Soviet air defence system using a German kid in a Cessena.
Martin-Baker, the manufacturer of the ejection seat has now been called in to take part in the investigation.
Unless I’m mistaken, MB investigate all use of their ejection seats no matter what circumstances.
That would be research for the W2-700 for the M52, didn’t think of that. Cheers
Actually, it was for a more immediate problem. It was an attempt to produce more thrust to help combat the V1. By time the flight tests took place the threat had already passed.
The earliest I know of was a Gloster Meteor (EE215) which was fitted with reheat in in November ’44.