Really liked your display Mike, the illuminated/powered up theme across your collection was, to the seller of switches and filament lamps, very pleasing! 😀
.Fumes were nasty as well!
Crusty asbestos ridden gloves, Hydrogen Cyanide fumes, volatile mono fuels burning uncontrollably, Trichloroethylene solvents…It’s a wonder we’re still alive! 😀
Oh and good to hear you Hunter boys found the glove extinguishing method as useful as we did..
What made me laugh was despite all of the scaremongering around the stuff, replenishing the tanks was still just like trying to fill you car with petrol from a 5 litre bottle without the handy nozzle – on a windy pan sat on a Canberra wing the stuff went bloody everywhere yet dissapointingly not once did I spontaneously combust (at least without the aid of Marham airmans mess chicken curry the night before)
Still used in the RAF until 2006 on the venerable Canberra PR9, Its fierce reputation wasn’t lived up to in practice particularly in my experience as a liney on the type. Obviously we handled it carefully, replenishing the tanks with task-specific plastic cans with air-tight valves stored in lockers waaay out on the pan but when handled correctly nothing untoward ever happened. The most fun I personally had was an AVPIN fire on startup – excess AVPIN dumped from the starter and ignited in the drain which spouted a glorious heat haze onto the pan. You can barely see burning AVPIN other than through the misplaced haze and trying to extinguish it using the prescribed method of “patting with heatproof glove” just makes for jolly but futile japes. Letting it burn itself out was a lesson quickly learned.
Oh and the hydrogen cyanide fumes are mighty wholesome when the wind blows them your direction!
On a related (ish) note, standing on the perimeter back in ’91 watching fully loaded Buffs depart for Iraq to donate some scrap iron to Mr Hussain, does anyone else recall the aircraft which suffered engine/electrical failure on takeoff which caused the gathered crowd to hit the turf sharpish as it lurched threateningly towards us at an alarming angle? Possibly the most terrifying experience of my life, it looked for all intents and purposes like it was going to catch a wingtip on the ground and dig a hole – I think I heard it shed its load out near the Med or something and landed safely but had issues getting back up due to a lack of runway length.
Was anyone else there that day and does anyone know the story as no amount of Googling has found anything since but I’m quite certain it was reported at the time?
The official term for the brake assembly on the EE Canberra is “dive brake” (or was on 39(1 PRU) Sqn up until its disbandment in ’06). A row of hydraulic actuated fingers which protrude from upper and lower main plane surfaces which on later marks had selectable IN MID and OUT positions, the ground crew hand signals for which made for much amusement as if repeatedly deployed and retracted caused the hapless “liney” to perform rather a silly dance relaying the position to the pilot. Ah memories. .
Almost Mike, though I’m more familiar with and the larger A2 (ish) format diagrams with three views – front, plan and side elevation with a very brief description, commonly seen on line hut and crew room walls. These don’t have a blanket AP reference, rather they are individually numbered (4 digits) so each is “Air Diagram XXXX”
I would be interested in having a peek at the 4280’s all the same, could be a new branch off the collection policy!
Thanks for taking the time to bring them to my attention, much appreciated 🙂
My pleasure, and actually digging a cover out of stores as I type!
Thanks Martyn. Just leaves no1 to identify.
Rob
A Canberra question I nearly missed!
Button 1 is, despite looking rather unimportant and insignificant actually a massively important and life-saving button.
As identified already the switch in front is the tail plane trim actuator switch (which incidentally I can probably get you the rubber “tit” which should cover it). Back in the earlier days of Canberra flying several losses occurred due to tail trim runaway, that is that in operation of the trim switch the electrical actuator ran on after letting go of the switch causing extreme pitching and more often than not loss of control with inevitable results. Part of the solution to this was a simple cut-in switch. Button number 1. Acting as a safety interlock, without it being made the trim actuator supply was isolated and in theory could not run on. I’m sure I’ve heard of instances where even this interlock failed to stop the actuator winding itself on but it us certainly recorded that with its introduction these cases dropped dramatically.
Hope that helps – nice column Rob!
Hi John
Ah yes they are the “satellite” interest as an offshoot of the silhouette collection as I acquired a number of them too – where I have a pair with silhouette and working diagram I’ve framed both together which gives quite pleasing results if that kind of thing tickles your tip-tanks!
I’d certainly be interested via PM or email, thanks for the heads-up 🙂
I happen to know of another available no longer being used at an airport (it is neither buried nor within digging distance of Burma though before anyone gets excited) in case this one escapes anyone who really wanted it. I understand it to have been refurbished by an RAF station in recent (ish) years too, bet Station GS Flight dont get too many of them in for minors any longer!
In hope of avoiding any shameful commandment infraction, I’m not advertising my own wares, I am a mere messenger of its current availability by means of circumstantially gained information…and stuff…
TT18Timbo – http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=96857
Thanks benyboy, I’m still waiting for my registration to be activated so I can’t view the link content yet. Whatever the reason for all the activity, it was ludicrously loud and frenetic – wonderful! 😀
Has anyone any idea what I’ve just been watching over rural Herefordshire for the past hour tonight? Low level fast jet circling over Yarkhill/Sutton St Nicholas area doing what looked like high speed diving engagements over Ledbury/Malvern way (QinetiQ trials maybe?). All very unusual for 10pm over the sleepy shire, beats the usual Herc, Merlin and Wokka action!
You have yourself an ECP (Electrical Control Panel) from an early B2 there Rob.It sits vertically to Stbd rear of the pilot facing the pressure bulkhead. Technically we are looking at its rear face as the front will be circuit breakets, plenty thereof! I rather like it! 😉
You have a message in your inbox which may be of help sir.
Serious question – could this Hurricane possibly be one of the Static Replicas commissioned in 1968 for the film Battle of Britain?
It most certainly could!