TT, they are slinging mud in entirely the wrong direction ain’t they mate

All very well explained VTTSCM, this is exactly what people need to know before they put their hands in their pockets again.

One small point, I know Dennis will/can organise visits but how many others do. The public face says £50.00, that is what puts people off

Sorry but now i am showing my ignorance, what is “Wimbourne”

another aside, the £125,000 i believe was a figure (as you say independant) at scrap value only.

XL391 you make sense but It ain’t just £500,000, “100% uplift on one major aspect of the contract and a further £500,000”

At the end of the day Marshalls are being paid by VOC, it should be VOC calling the shots not Marshalls. If it takes those sort of things to ensure VOC get enough money to pay Marshalls then they should not bleat.

Not sure a web cast would actually achieve much IMO……..it would only be viewed by a relatively small number of people on forums such as this…… He/they need to get much much wider publicity in the right money areas.

Just imagine the number of people who would attend a “Girls Aloud” charity gig held at Brunters in the hanger and how much money could be raised from it…..you never know, it might even tempt a major sponsor to come on board.

What other celebrities are into planes, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Gary Numan……. I dunno how many others but might be worth a bit of investigation.

just a few of my ramblings

Just a thought but would it not help to keep the project in the public eye, if the hangar doors were opened ‘just a little wider’ so that people who have contributed so far can come along and see how far things have progressed and see what their ‘hard earned ‘cash has paid for, without them having to pay ,what I think is a LOT of money, around £50.00 irc? for a guided tour ,that is ltd to certain dates at the mo.
I know the issue of the hangar being a ‘secure ‘area is one reason for this but now that the project is in dire straits maybe drastic measures are needed!
Why not do it conjunction with the Brunty open day, advertise it, get people there ,let us see what has happened so far and what can be again! 🙂

Regards, Alan.

I agree. people who buy lottery tickets and who have donated money should be able to see what is going on for free. If it has been bought for the nation, the nation should have free access not £50.00 a squint.

I was in fact told by one of the VOC chaps during my meeting that the doors could NOT be left open. The drastic change in temperature would cause such a contraction/expansion in the airframe that it might jump off it’s jacks……..that was the point when we decided to leave and become masters of our own destiny.

At what point should any failing project actually draw the stumps, pack up and go home?

Companies continue to trade and run up debts with suppliers until they are forced by external pressures (like the bank) to pack it up. Suppliers lose their money and in this case all those who have donated money will lose their money when they finally decide enough is enough.

not sure who has title to the aircraft so i don’t know if it will belong to the HLF to dispose of when it all grinds to a halt.

Surely A decision can’t be far away…… No Sponsor, No reduction in bills, No choice IMO. Use what money they have left and bolt it back together. Give it back to the chaps who looked after it for years and were then told they couldn’t go near it again except with a broom in their hands. Just my thoughts.

VOC live in the land of clouds and cuckoos

cloud cuckoo land

not in the real world IMO

If i was really cynical i could suggest Who’s “special account”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet there won’t be much money coming back to either the country or the membership.

I also wonder what the fallback position is………do they have enough money to make it into one big lump or is it gonna be left to others like the owners of the hanger to sweep up the very big mess these guys will leave behind them.

Turn it back over to those weekend amateurs who spent year after year looking after it very well IMO.

moggy, exactly what i have been saying

they see a big pot of money, they want big pot of money, they get big pot of money, they go looking for another big pot of money

they don’t care and who can blame them.